From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Mon Jan 11 1999 - 09:44:46 MST
KPJ wrote:
>
> You appear to enter the Debate Mode. This normally indicates that I have
> somehow triggered the meme system into self-protection. Sorry about that.
(?) I do have to worry about that, since I'm still a mortal. But I
don't think so. I'll pay you a sincere compliment and assume that you
were genuinely trying to make a point of evolutionary psychology, at the
same level of facility I had a few years ago, rather than using a
debating tactic.
I was simply echoing a point you made back at you; that if you feel
threatened by a specific set of memes ("Nuke K-Mart"), then there's also
a threat in any meme system which assumes a random trajectory. I'd feel
nervous around someone who insisted that reality is only a matter of
opinion, wouldn't you? He might decide that sulfuric acid was good for me.
> It appears as if "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <sentience@pobox.com> wrote:
> |
> |I see. So, in other words, you're walking a totally predetermined
> |trajectory where your current meme system determines the meme system
> |you'll adopt next. (As adjusted for your innate instincts, of course.)
>
> Ahh, the old question of Free Will pops up.
Not in the slightest. There are people who follow predetermined walks
with respect to their opinions; we call it "blind faith", not "Free Opinion".
> Personally I use the meme system of scientific exploration called rational
> empirism. This system defines "truth" as the model matching the outer world
> and checks the truth value of the model by making experiments. I understand
> it has been rather successful during the last centuries.
But you don't use that meme system to determine the truth of supergoals,
only of opinions and subgoals. I use that meme system to determine what
I do as well as what I say.
--
sentience@pobox.com Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
http://pobox.com/~sentience/AI_design.temp.html
http://pobox.com/~sentience/sing_analysis.html
Disclaimer: Unless otherwise specified, I'm not telling you
everything I think I know.
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