From: Terry Donaghe (tdonaghe@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Dec 14 1998 - 06:32:14 MST
---"Joe E. Dees" <jdees0@students.uwf.edu> wrote:
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> Date sent: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:30:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Terry Donaghe <tdonaghe@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: The Education Function
> To: extropians@extropy.com
> Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
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> > ---Emmanuel Charpentier <manu@cybercable.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > Terry Donaghe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I further posit that there are no services "inappropriate or
> > > > impossible" for the private market to provide. Please list
> > examples.
> > >
> > > I think the difference capitalism/socialism is about
> > > competition/cooperation. And there might be times when nationwide
> > > cooperation is necessary. War time? Fight against disease? Talks
with
> > > other groups of people?
> > >
> > > So, I go for a government that would primarily have two
> > > responsibilities: defense and diplomacy. Or do you think
enterprises
> > > could manage that too???
> > >
> > > Manu.
> > >
> >
> > What use is diplomacy without governments? Who do you negotiate
with
> > when you're looking at a continent full of sovereign individuals?
> >
> > Defense can and should be provided by the free market system.
> >
> > I contend that no form of government can exist that is moral - since
> > government rely on coercive means to raise money (i.e. theft) they
are
> > immoral - evil.
> >
> > Since there can be no moral governments, then there should be no
> > governments. Support of government = support of theft and violence.
> >
> > ==
>
> After you overthrow all the foreign governments and install your
> dictatorship of the individual there so we have no foreign threats,
> come talk to us. Until then, Realpolitik takes precedence over your
> particular utopianism. Joe
Why bother with other governments? Just reduce the size of our
current government replacing its functions with private solutions
until it (the government) is irrelevant. Then, we'll have a private
defense provider (or providers) which will protect the land mass.
Without government we'll no longer be subject to terrorism. Without
government intervention our economy will become much stronger, far
surpassing today's dominance of the planet. Just as peoples around
the world began to demand "democracies" similar to our own during the
industrial revolution, so to will peoples demand a lack of government
when they see the jump in the standard of living we will experience.
I know it's a far fletched idea, but that does not remove the fact
that support of coercive government is equivalent with support of
violence against individuals. That, I contend is counterproductive to
transhumanism and not at all in harmony with Extropianism as I
understand it.
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