RE: Final Challenge to Socialists

From: Billy Brown (bbrown@conemsco.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 1998 - 12:13:25 MST


Samael wrote:
<snip>
> The land does not belong to anyone. Some people have just grabbed it and
> denied others access to it. The basic resources do not belong to anyone..
> Some people grabbed them and denied others access to them. All other
> property and wealth derives from those sources (except, possibly for
things
> like software and other intellectual knowledge and even then a connection
> could be made). Therefore all wealth derives from communal
property/unowned
> property..

In very primitive societies wealth is primarily determined by what natural
resources you can get access to, so your argument would hold. In more
recent societies wealth is produced through a combination of natural
resources, human labor, capital, and human innovation. The more advanced
the society, the less important natural resources become. Today, the vast
majority of all wealth is derived from a combination of labor and
innovation.

Besides, most natural resources have no intrinsic value. You can't eat oil,
after all. In a primitive society the value is created when someone figures
out a way to do something useful with the resource (innovation), works to
extract the resource (labor), and then sells the result to others. He
spends some of the resulting money on tools, draft animals, and other means
of increasing his production (capital), and eventually begins hiring other
people to do the work (more labor). Modern society works the same way,
except on a larger scale.

So, if I figure out a way to make something useful out of something everyone
else considers useless, and I invest my time and energy to make the idea
work, and to actually produce that "something useful", and I offer it to
other people for a set price, which they freely pay - how is it that society
is entitled to the fruits of my labor?

Billy Brown
bbrown@conemsco.com



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