Re: SPACE: Roton in New Scientist

From: mark@unicorn.com
Date: Tue Aug 11 1998 - 11:31:39 MDT


Michelle Jones [shelly66@ibm.net] wrote:
> you fire the rocket from a 20 km altitude. turns
>out, the extra
>altitude gains very little over starting on the ground.

Actually you gain a lot because you can use nozzles with an expansion
ratio optimized for vacuum, not surface pressure. This was one of the
smart elements of Kistler Aerospace's first pseudo-SSTO design; they
had a reusable rocket which just lifted the main vehicle to 80,000
feet and released it, which saved enough fuel from switching to vacuum
nozzles to greatly increase the payload capacity.

>right. however, rotary blade flight is not particularly efficient.

And the original Roton design didn't get much of its lift from the
rotors, as far as I remember. The engines were mounted on the ends
of the rotors and turned from horizontal to near vertical as it
ascended, so that not long after launch it was propelled largely
by rocket thrust. The main advantage was the simplicity of the
engine design and that you did get the extra lift from the rotors.

>i hate
>to be in the she'll-never-fly-orville crowd, but michael, i can assure you my
>friend, the roton will not fly. nooooo way.

Wouldn't bet on it myself; and remember, if it does fly that message
will be on the web site for all eternity, or at least until the
Singularity ;-).

    Mark



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