From: Robin Hanson (hanson@econ.berkeley.edu)
Date: Wed Jul 15 1998 - 16:41:46 MDT
Harvey Newstrom writes:
>But it is about us. The current discussion on uploads is not about
>creating offspring, but extending our current lifespan beyond that of
>our bodies. Since most copy advocates require that the original body be
>destroyed during the process, we really need to figure out whether it
>will be life extension or instant death. This is not a question that
>can be put off until after we pull the trigger.
I think this needlessly focuses on one not terribly typical scenario.
The earliest uploads will likely be cryonics patients, without much
hope of getting a regular body anytime soon. When uploading tech is
mature, making an upload copy of a flesh brain probably *won't* require
destroying that flesh brain. And making a copy of an upload brain
probably will never require destroying the original (though that may
be cheaper sometimes). It's only in the early but not earliest upload
tech era regarding meat to metal transitions when the issue might even
arise.
>We need to know if uploading as described will make us live forever, or
>instantly kill us for trying. This is more than a vague philosophical
>question of "if I changed, am I really me". ...
>I think you are looking at copies as if they are offspring. In such a
>scenario, I agree that it is unnecessary to discuss how much like us the
>offspring will be.
I mainly want to point out that not only is there a lot of slop in
deciding "is it a change me or a similar someone else", but even when you
decide "someone else", you may still be willing to sacrifice a lot to
create that someone else. Maybe even "die". When uploading is possible,
many people *will* do it. Can't we get past this endless agonizing over
who will do it, and wonder what their world will be like?
Robin Hanson
hanson@econ.berkeley.edu http://hanson.berkeley.edu/
RWJF Health Policy Scholar, Sch. of Public Health 510-643-1884
140 Warren Hall, UC Berkeley, CA 94720-7360 FAX: 510-643-2627
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