Re: Are guns extropian?

From: Scott Badger (wbadger@psyberlink.net)
Date: Fri Jul 10 1998 - 10:45:37 MDT


Ben Hill <ben@opnsys.com> asked:

>
> Just out of curiosity, what do you consider common APDs?
>
>
> Ben Hill
>
>

The DSM-IV describes it thusly:

A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others
occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the
following:

(1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as
indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest.

(2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or
conning others for personal profit or pleasure.

(3) impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

(4) irritability and aggressiveness as indicated by repeated physical fights
or assaults

(5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others

(6) consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain
consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

(7) lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing
having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

and

mark@unicorn.com wrote:

>No, [gun proliferation] is a decentralized,
>spontaneous order solution, rather than
>something centrally imposed.

and

>And when Transhumanism is defined as
>an Antisocial Personality Disorder?
>Bye-bye, dude...

I don't see how the definitions for Transhumanism
and APD could possibly be confused. They strike
me as mutually exclusive, in fact.

>Why is it that some many people seem
>to think that if they set up a huge
>centralized system it will do precisely
>what they want it to do, and not be used
>against them? Set up a power structure
>and it will be used by precisely the kind
>of antisocial power freaks you fear.

I'm having a hard time correlating this response
to my post. What does advocating the treatment
of mental illness have to do with advocating a
huge centralized power structure?

and when I said,

>>I want society to be polite, not because it's
>>armed and scared to be anything but polite,
>>but because it really feels like
>>being polite.

Mark replied;

>And if the bastards won't be polite you'll
>stick electrodes in their brains til they
>change their minds... No thanks.

That statement is most certainly a gross
mischaracterization of the efforts of practitioners
in the mental health field, but you're entitled to
your opinion.

Scott Badger



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