From: Ian Goddard (igoddard@netkonnect.net)
Date: Thu Jun 18 1998 - 23:15:35 MDT
At 07:50 PM 6/18/98 -0400, Daniel Fabulich wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Ian Goddard wrote:
>
>> But you do cite a difference between Dan's
>> atomism and Ian's holism, which is that:
>>
>> "[atomists believe] that particles may have
>> independent properties *within a single
>> reference frame*, ie in relation to zero."
>>
>> How does A have an "independent property"
>> with respect to the property it acquired
>> from 0? If A acquires the property of A
>> from 0, then A has no independent property.
>>
>> Please evidence an independent property of A.
>
>I was referring to properties of A-0 which are independent of B-0; I was
>not asserting that there were properties independent of 0.
IAN: In short, there are no independent,
or free, properties of identity A, period!
Observe that in the identity matrix, every
identity attribute of identity A is derived
from an external relation, such that
1 2 3
_________
1 | 0 1 2 |
| |
2 |-1 0 1 |
| |
3 |-2 -1 0 |
-----------
all identity attributes listed below
identity A on the top are derived from
external relations (defined by their in-
tersection in the matrix), and each new
relation to enter the field adds a new
attribute to all included identities.
The sum of all identities = 0, and
the self-relation identity = 0.
There is no identity in one thing nor
in all things, only in the relation of
things. Identity = relation/difference.
The sum of All identities must be 0,
since identity = difference, and the
difference between All and All = 0,
just as in the case of 5 - 5 = 0.
100% of what (internal)A is comes from
(outside)A, which contains 0,1,2,3...
and each relation of A with n yeilds
two symmetrical identity attributes,
one to A one to n, which sum to 0.
Since all identity attributes that we
can measure are derived from external
relations, identity is stark raving
100% holistic, like hard-core holism,
not a trace of atomized, or as it
was called, "independent identity."
The independent identity = 0, or null.
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