Gov't NOT Coercion?

From: Ian Goddard (iam@symmetry.net)
Date: Fri Oct 24 1997 - 18:25:56 MDT


John K Clark (johnkc@well.com)

>>Not recognized by who? As far as the US government is concerned,
>>every single driver in this country is liable for the "Implied
>>Consent Law," without having signed anything.
>
> Yes, that's their claim, by breathing the air on any land mass on
> the Earth's surface you have in effect signed away your rights and
> "voluntarily" given some government the power of life and death over
> you. It matters not at all if you or I think this reasoning makes the
> slightest sense or not because they have the power to enforce it
> regardless.

  IAN: So, if I walk into someone's property
  I get to stay rent free so long as I don't
  sign any contract: "You can't throw me out,
  I never signed the contract." What a deal!

  The scenario you cite is not resolved by
  every inch of land being "privately" owned
  with every landlord having a set of rules,
  regulations, and rent. Hence, complaining
  about a fait where all land is claimed is
  weighing in for or against libertarianism.
 
  You suggest that governments have this unique
  attribute that if you stand on gov't property
  you are subject to gov't law, but the same
  holds for private property; therefore the
  alleged unique attribute of gov't that is
  bemoaned does not actually exist as any-
  thing unique to this thing called "gov't."

  There are claims upon land and the claimants
  demand a rent/tax from other people who
  inhabit the areas within the claims. When
  I got to the Earth, every inch was already
  claimed, so I have to agree to pay the fees,
  try to evade payment, or overthrow the claim.

  Libertarians want to evade payment to large-
  scale land holders, while socialists want to
  evade payments to small-scale land holders.
  Now there's funny twist that we uncover
  from this line of inquiry. Hmmm....

  Aren't socialists for the little guy?

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