Cryonics Signups

From: Rick Knight (rknight@platinum.com)
Date: Tue Sep 09 1997 - 10:59:55 MDT


     Derek Strong wrote:
     
     Marvin Minsky and Eric Drexler both finally signed up, and that makes
     me feel better. But I'm sure each of you can think of countless
     intellectual influences whose cryonics membership status is
     non-existent or unknown. What can we do about it, if anything?
     
     Rick Knight responds:
     
     I'm curious whether, in either gentleman's case, they were sponsored
     for preservation. They are very highly regarded and popular amongst
     Extropians/Cryonics enthusiasts. Frankly, if someone said to me,
     "You're an incredibly worthwhile human so I'm going to see to it that
     instead of being buried or cremated, you'll be in suspended
     animation.", I'd kindly accept the gift...with the stipulation that I
     only be "reactivated" in the event that the world has become a place I
     genuinely want to live an extra-long time in. If it still has
     disregard for other humans, this blind market economy (one step up
     above ape-like survivalism IMO), and a wanton consumerist mentality,
     I'd just as soon not reanimate.
     
     It is my feeling that the expectations of a superior future world and
     the expectations of a beyond death existence have similar fleeting
     notions of hope and faith attached to them. In the cryonics scenario,
     you're relying on the benevolence and capability of your fellow humans
     to follow through with that which serves your best interests. There
     are only a few humans on the planet I know of who I could honestly and
     completely count on and even at that, "outta sight, outta mind."
     
     Faith is faith, my fellow truth seekers. Atheist or fundamentalist,
     it's all about how good a spin you can put on it to convince your own
     self-constructed perception of how it all works.
     
     It was asked what motivates people to give advice about life when they
     are ready (and perhaps willing?) to relinquish theirs to old age or
     disease. I'm somehow reminded of the resistence I had to all the
     bible-thumping fundamentalists I grew up with. Ideally, they were
     followers of the "Prince of Peace" but they were often anything BUT
     peaceful. I knew very early on that if there WAS a heaven that lasted
     for all eternity, I'd be *damned* if I was going to spend it with
     those people. Immortality is a big deal and if I get it, I want it
     with my preferred view. Otherwise, I'm content to sit back and see
     what's behind the inter-dimension door. Advice in the 11th hour is a
     reassessment of what you accomplished and hopefully you did what you
     came for (whoop, whoop, metaphysic alert).
     
     Even if there's nothing after life, nothing isn't anything to worry
     about if awareness isn't there to perceive it. Once a forever burning
     hell was eliminated from my thinking as a subsequent existence to life
     on planet Earth, everything else seems like cake.
     
     Rick



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