From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Mon Aug 25 1997 - 15:40:49 MDT
John K Clark wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <sentience@pobox.com> Wrote:
> >emotions are not subjective philosophical constructs that we can
> >assign or deny at our whim; they are cognitive processes that
> >objectively exist
>
>
> If by "objective" you mean emotions are real then I agree.
>
> If by "objective" you mean I can have the same sort of knowledge of your
> emotions that I have of mine then I disagree.
>
> If by "objective" you mean that when you and I act in a similar way we
> probably have emotions of a somewhat similar nature then I agree. Probably.
>
> If by "objective" you mean my emotions can exist independent of me then
> I disagree, and so they obviously must be subjective.
I mean that you can study emotions in the laboratory, and that they're so
obviously present - and obviously useful - that debating philosophy is
ridiculous. There's so much practical work to be done.
> >pleasure and pain are handled by entirely different sections of the
> >brain, feel entirely different from a subjective standpoint, have
> >wholly different effects, and in general are totally different
> >subsystems.
>
>
> Then why do some brains enjoy hot peppers, scary movies, and S and M sex?
Nobody said the two systems were causally unrelated.
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