Capital Punishment/Age of Consent

From: Rick Knight (rknight@platinum.com)
Date: Fri Aug 22 1997 - 10:03:58 MDT


     Forrest Bishop cited CNN as reporting:
     
     Six countries currently execute children (people
     under the age of 18):
     
     Iran
     Iraq
     Bangladesh
     Pakistan
     Nigeria (?)
     USA
     
     Rick Knight responds:
     
     This actually brings up an interesting subject I've been meaning to
     broach in this forum. It ties in with the thread about age of
     consent, the access to information for all ages, etc..
     
     In this country, we're presently deciding capital punishment is okay.
     I have an interesting position on this. Since I can honestly say that
     I don't invest all but the most affrontive information about things
     like
     * starving or murdered people in the Third World
     * jet crashes killing everyone
     * or even when the Oklahoma City bombing killed those many people
     (which should've tweaked me considerably since I had a front row seat
     to the fatal result of a terrorist bombing in 85),
     
     I can also honestly say that whether a person convicted of a capital
     crime will be systematically exterminated by the state doesn't really
     move me one way or another. Since I hold that consciousness has
     metaphysical existence separate from physicality BUT I don't hold the
     superstitious and disabling heaven/hell beliefs, it's almost like a
     person is getting off the hook if you execute them. YET, I think
     prisons have become places of cruel and unusual punishment.
     
     Bottom line is how we're handling life-ending crimes in our culture.
     We incarcerate or incinerate (alliterative leeway taken here). We
     DON'T seem to rehabilitate except where it's the earnest desire of the
     offending individual.
     
     Here's the Extropian part:
     
     With the advent of new technology (prior to the all-bets-are-off
     Singularity thing okay?), is it more "appropriate" to:
     
     * pay for their wastoid incarceration (via tax dollars)
     * pay for their somehow grossly expensive execution/appeal processes
     * give them the option to biologically be reprogrammed as a civil
     servant <G>
     
     Okay, a little joke, but biological reprogramming is the gist. What
     behooves a cooperative society most efficiently, particularly one
     currently driven by our economic structure?
     
     And the last notion, executing children. There have been some
     abhorrent crimes committed by children of late. I, for one, refuse to
     justify their actions simply because they are young. Western
     children, perhaps even the least educated, are likely exposed to more
     information by their prepubescent years than most Eastern Europeans
     prior to WWII were in their entire lives. But the question of
     execution applies to the previous point I make in this post.
     
     As I mentioned, there are interesting tangents regarding sexual age of
     consent. In this information-rich age, when do we DECIDE that
     children are accountable?
     
     Does information bring about discernment and rationality?
     
     Rick



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