From: Prof. Jose Gomes Filho (gomes@dpx.cnen.gov.br)
Date: Tue Aug 19 1997 - 13:36:29 MDT
> From: Anders Sandberg <nv91-asa@nada.kth.se>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Prof. Jose Gomes Filho wrote:
>
> > Organism is organization and not disorder...
> > I should even risk to make an afirmation: LIFE JUST APPEARS WHEN THE
> > LOCAL PARTIAL DERIVATE dX/dt > 0 (X=Extropy, complementary of
> > entropy (S), S+X = ?, cte or not ?)
>
> A lifeform is a complex self-organizing system, which keeps entropy
> at bay by moving it out from its body through a continous energy flow
> (in our case food and air into wastes, plants do it through
> sunlight). But it isn't so simple that life appears when entropy
> decreases, there are plenty of entropy decreasing but non-living
> processes (like freezing a liquid).
>
****** Yes. Maybe not freezing, but just decreasing its temperature
to a locally optimal value... like here, on Earth...
............
> I think these are very good questions, moving in the borderland
> between thermodynamics and complexity theory. But I think we need a
> better definition of what we are talking about before proceeding.
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****** Yes, these are just general initial questions....
> > 1.Which are the fundamental extropic reactions and phenomena and
> > which are responsible to life creation (or any extropic phenomena
> > could lead to a certain kind of life form?)?
>
> (this seems to be a tie in with the metasystem transitions of the
> Principia Cybernetica Project).
>
> > 2. What conditions lead the same particles set to have extropic or
> > extropic behaviour?
> >
> > 3. What conditions would reverse the extropic/entropic state of a set
> > of particles (including aglomerate objects)?
> >
> > 4. What were the extropic conditions that have generated life on
> > Earth ?
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