Re: botched diplomacy?

From: John K Clark (jonkc@att.net)
Date: Sat Nov 30 2002 - 10:08:47 MST


>>Me:
>>The Kyoto Protocol if adopted would cost between 150 to 350 billion
>>dollars every year (that's Billion with a B) and for all that it
>>would mean the warming you would see in 2100 would be
>>postponed until 2106.

"Samantha Atkins" <samantha@objectent.com> Wrote:

> That is hardly accurate. The protocols project benefit is
> longer than that.

It's probably even worse. There is quite good article about it at
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-307.html
The key findings are below:

"The Kyoto agreement--if fully complied with--would likely reduce the gross
domestic product of the United States by 2.3 percent per year. However,
according to a climate model of the National Center for Atmospheric Research
recently featured in Science, the Kyoto emission-control commitments would
reduce mean planetary warming by a mere 0.19 degree Celsius over the next 50
years. If the costs of preventing additional warming were to remain
constant, the Kyoto Protocol would cost a remarkable 12 percent of GDP per
degree of warming prevented annually over a 50-year period."

"The Kyoto Protocol will have no discernible effect on global climate--in
fact, it is doubtful that the current network of surface thermometers could
distinguish a change on the order of .19 degree from normal year-to-year
variations. The Kyoto Protocol will result in no demonstrable climate change
but easily demonstrable economic damage. "

>If what he wants is botched (which it largely is) then that he
>is getting it is certainly botched as hell.

Then it would be botched policy not botched diplomacy, but is it really
botched? I'm less certain of what the correct policy regarding Iraq should
be than you are, and of course certainty has no relation to being correct.
Last year I thought it was clear as glass that war with Afghanistan was the
only thing to do and it turned out I was right, but things are more murky
about Iraq. You were certain last year and you were also dead wrong,
I'll tell you a year from now if you're doing any better.

    John K Clark jonkc@att.net



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