Quantized Time (Was RE: duck me!)

From: Dickey, Michael F (michael_f_dickey@groton.pfizer.com)
Date: Wed Oct 30 2002 - 14:34:53 MST


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From: gts [mailto:gts_2000@yahoo.com]

Michael F Dickey wrote:

> However, the question remains important, is the entire universe is
> destroyed and recreated simultaneously or is each part of it
> destroyed and recreated of its own planck-time schedule.

"I've been thinking about this problem since you first mentioned it to me a
few days ago, Michael. I would have answered except that your message was
downloaded onto another computer of mine (I've been out of town since then,
working on another of my computers). I planned to answer it the next time I
returned to my other computer so that I could quote your original properly
(sorry I've been too lazy to pull it from the web archives :-)"

No Problem GTS, I admit I was curious to know what you thought of it.

"Here for now is my brief and tentative answer: First of all I think the
conundrum you pose is not real in the way you think it is. We need to
remember that the universe is quantized *only in relation to an observer*."

Is that true? Isnt this a fundamental issue of knowing how the universe
actually exists without guesses about it? Most practicing scientists feel
that there is an objective truth out there somewhere, and we are continually
getting closer and closer at describing it. If time exists at no smaller
interval than the Planck time, then are you saying it only exists at no
smaller interval because observers can see no smaller interval? Or does
there truly exist no smaller interval?

Is this the same as the quantized nature of space at the Planck length? As
a particle moves through space, if space is quantized, then it can not be a
smooth continuous flow, and that particle must jump from one spot to the
next in minute quantum tunneling events. One could envision the
quantization of space as a giant grid where a particle can only exist in one
grid square at a time, and not part in one and part in the other. If it is
moving, to move it must disappear from one square and re-appear in the next.
Is this grid the same for all particles? Similarly, as a particle moves
through time, it can only exist at time intervals that are even multiples of
the Planck length of time. Is this 'time grid' the same for all particles?
If that is the case, then all particles, as they move through time, must
disappear from one time grid square to appear in the next. If all particles
are synchronized, then all of them must disappear simultaneously. If they
are not, then some would disappear while others would not. It seems that if
the latter where the case, we should be able to observe the quantization of
time (in theory at least) if the former were the case, we could not since
all of our instruments would disappear at the same time. If quantum theory
predicts that time is quantized, and we can observe that quantization, then
each particle must not be in the same grid, correct? Or I could just be
rambling incoherently.

You say that the universe is quantized only in relation to an observer, does
that mean in an absolute sense, it is not quantized? I was under the
impression that observed or not, space and time are quantized, their
dimensions being the Planck length and Planck time, respectively.

If it is not quantized in an absolute sense, then it must be smooth and
continuous, and our observations must be quantized. If that were the case,
I certainly *would not* teleport anywhere in any short amount of time.

"I think then that we must look at things from the perspective of the
subject being teleported. The teleportation subject is the
observer/experimenter. Given the proper measurement instruments, the
subject's experience of the world would be quantized according to Planck's
constant, including his experience of time."
AND
"I do not believe it correct to state that "the entire universe is destroyed
and recreated simultaneously," because this option makes no account of an
observer, but of your two choices above I believe this is the more accurate
description. Due to the central role of the observer, one could say that
*his* entire measured universe is quantized, lock in step."

How can he observe the quantization of time, if his observation instruments
are also undergoing the same quantization? I would think that if one could
observe it, then all particles must not be in sync, but I must admit my
knowledge is hugely limited in this subject. Any related sites or
experiments anyone know to shed light on this?

Again, if that is the case, if all matter is in sync as it progresses
through time, I would not object to a spatial teleportation that took place
at a time interval of the Planck length of time.

Michael

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