Re: Math question

From: Lee Daniel Crocker (lee@piclab.com)
Date: Mon Oct 28 2002 - 17:58:55 MST


> (Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <sentience@pobox.com>):
> Suppose that we flip a fair coin 20 times, and that a biased sampling
> procedure then randomly selects 5 coinflips from the set of coinflips that
> came up heads and reports on those coinflips; if there aren't 5 coinflips
> that came up heads, the biased sampling procedure reports all available
> heads and enough randomly selected tails to make up the gap.
>
> Suppose the biased sampling procedure reports that the first, sixth,
> eleventh, fifteenth, and eighteenth flips came up heads. Is there a
> simple general formula for calculating the probability that any given
> other coinflip came up tails? Clearly the probability is greater than
> 50%, but by how much?

I don't know if this qualifies as an "easy way" to figure it out,
but here's the answer:

Probability 1/2 makes the calculating the binomial distribution a
little simpler, so the number of ways the 20 flips can result in
exactly N heads is 20! / (N! * (20 - N!), so that's 1 way to get
no heads, 20 ways to get 1, 190 ways to get 2, 1140 ways to get 3,
4845 ways to get 4, etc. Adding those 5 outcomes, which are the
ones where your sample produces at least one tail and the probability
of a remaining coing being a tail is therefore certainty, you get
6196/1048576 (the denominator here is 2^20), or a little less than
0.6 % as the cases that aren't interesting. That leaves 99.4% of
the cases where your biased selector has chosen 5 heads.

So, for each of these cases (N=5...N=20), calculate the probability
that a single chosen remaining coin is a tail; this will be just
(20 - N) / 15. For N=5, P=1 (because there were exactly five heads,
so the probability of a reminaining coing being a tail is 1), for
N=6, it's 14/15, etc., to N=20, where P=0 (all heads).

Now write that probability (1, 14/15, 13/15....) next to the previous
numbers you calculated in step 1 (15504, 38760, ...) Multiply them
across, and divide by (1048576-6196). Then add the whole column.
The number I get get is 0.66407..., so you should take the "head"
bet if you're offered 2-to-1.

Note: the hardest part of this for me wasn't figuring out how to do
it or calculating the binomials, but having to keep scratching out
"52" all the time...

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