Re: duck me!

From: Jef Allbright (jef@jefallbright.net)
Date: Sun Oct 27 2002 - 19:43:04 MST


Lee -

Lee Corbin wrote:
>> It seems to me that gts and Lee are still not connecting in the
>> sense of understanding what the other person is saying.
>
> Well, I *do* understand what he is saying, but bow to your
> analysis here:

Lee, I am quite certain that you usually DO understand what others are
saying, but it has been my experience and observation that you often do not
acknowledge that you understand the other person's points. This often leads
the other person to feel disconnected, repeat their same points, and grow
frustrated with you.

Personally, my intitial frustration with you has been replaced by
appreciation of a sense of playfulness, and I benefit from your eruditeness.

> Well, I say it *is* useful, and proclaim that my notion
> of identity---which dictates acceptance of level 7 in
> my hierarchy---is what naturally evolves in SF scenarios
> and that the "pattern theory of identity", as most fully
> explained in Mike Perry's "Forever for All", is what will
> one day be commonplace as programs rule.

Thanks for the pointer. I ordered the book today from Amazon.

In your posts later today, two points of your points have become clearer, at
least to me: (1) You are talking about "survival of identify", and (2) you
are saying that in the future, as the technical means become available, it
makes sense for us to value the survival of our identity with importance
equal to our current concept of "survival of self."

If you agree with my statements of understanding above, then I think you and
I are in essentialy complete agreement as to the logical and rational way of
looking at "survival of identity." The challenge will be to overcome our
human nature that evolved with the more limited concept of "survival of
physical self."

- Jef



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