From: Emlyn O'regan (oregan.emlyn@healthsolve.com.au)
Date: Wed Oct 09 2002 - 20:58:24 MDT
Actually Olga didn't write that, I did.
I think that the situation with redistribution of resources ala welfare is
quite a bit more complex than you make out. I made a mistake by calling it
welfare; I should have used some larger term like government services.
Including that old saw, roads.
It seems to me that the EU has a quasi-opt-out setup now, in that an EU
passport gives you very wide choice over where to go work and live. This
means much greater freedom of movement (within the EU). For those who are
actually in the EU, how's that working out? Any interesting stories to tell
about mass movements between countries due to legislative/economic
differences?
Emlyn
>
> Olga wrote:
>
> > One concession I'd make to libertarians is that, if there
> is going to
> > be a social welfare framework, there should be an opt-out mechanism
> > for those who want to eschew the costs and benefits. This doesn't
> > exist for most people today (opting out of any particular regime's
> > influence is not possible for many people), which is a bad thing. I
> > don't have any good details on how you'd implement such a proposal,
> > off the top of my head, sorry.
> >
>
> ### I doubt that such details could be invented. After all,
> the recipients
> of welfare (the non-working class, the parents who don't have
> to pay for
> their children, the government teachers who don't have to compete for
> vouchers, the smokers who don't have to pay for the medical care they
> receive, and the affirmatively helped ones) are not the same
> as the payers
> (the working class, parents who do pay for their children,
> honest teachers
> who want to work for the students rather than the government,
> people willing
> to pay for their own medical care, and the Asian-Americans who are
> discriminated against because of their race). If the payers
> could opt out,
> you'd be left with payees only, which is not likely to
> satisfy any of their
> perceived "needs".
>
> Rafal
>
>
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