From: Camp, Christopher (CCamp@omm.com)
Date: Fri Sep 13 2002 - 15:13:06 MDT
What are the trends with surveillance/observation?
Are individuals increasingly giving access to information on personal
location, health and activities?
Why?
Can cell phone conversation be monitored?
Can cell phone users be tracked in geographical space?
Do they know about this?
Do they use the phones anyway?
Do grocery stores track our purchases?
What about credit cards?
Do you always pay with cash?
Can GPS units in cars be used to track the car?
What happens when cell phones and GPS are combined?
What is biobank? http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,52176,00.html
Is it likely you'll give access to your genetic information?
How useful would it be to have a database filled with genetic, dietary,
consumption and educational information on billions of people?
Would we know ourselves better?
Be able to predict better?
Manage the economy better?
Would we be willing to trade our privacy for these benefits?
What happens when cell phones - communication connections - are ubiquitous?
What happens when our vital bodily functions are monitored?
What happens when our thoughts are digitized?
Aren't we moving toward an increasing level of connection?
When will we be connected to the internet constantly?
Are the people on Survivor under surveillance?
Do they enjoy it?
Have you ever wanted to be on a reality tv show?
How many tv channels are there?
How many web pages are there?
How many will there be?
Do you have your own home page?
Will your existence be a station?
How many stations will you want to watch at once?
How many will you be able to watch at once?
Will you be comfortable having people tune into your thoughts?
Is it hard to know how you will feel about this because everything will be
so different?
Will you disconnect from the network and miss out on fancy upgrades?
Will you disconnect and go live in the forest?
and die early?
What effect will nanotechnology have on surveillance?
When will there be nanobots everywhere?
Will the walls be watching?
And reporting to who?
Will everything be alive?
What are monads?
What is surveillance?
Will we invite it?
Do we want privacy and eternal life and constant connection and our own
minds and the right to drop out and the singularity and our same values and
morals and is this combination of desires possible?
-----Original Message-----
From: Extropian Agro Forestry Ventures Inc.
[mailto:megao@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:15 PM
To: extropians@extropy.org
Subject: Re: surveillance helps... GPS IMPLANTS
The group to most be able to verify the utility of, develop, test and debug
such a device would be the military. Every soldier could be constantly or
periodically tracked. In this case inbound communications would be enhanced
by knowing the precise whereabouts of each body. If comm links are a
technical barrier there may be relay back to mobile relay nodes?
Stolen devices? -- A good device should have a personal recognition
protocol
and look for personal biochemical factors which can't be transplanted ,
duplicated or simulated. It could also double as a personal medical monitor
pre-empting
disease by reporting a variety of parameters. Attempts to tamper should
have
to
cause detectable physical changes and thus activate an alarm protocol.
The payback for carrying such a device could be insurance against sudden
death or detectable disease at an early stage.
Everything has a price. Some groups of people may agree to this sort of
"deal".
Another payback may be freedom to travel anywhere without a passport and
enhanced access to healthcare services.
Chuck Kuecker wrote:
> At 20:37 09/11/2002 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
>
> > > mandatory implant could be burned out by a brief pulse of RF, or the
> > > implant site could be shielded to prevent downloads.
> >
> >At times this list redefines the meaning of hare-brained.
> >
> > > I also see a market for chips stolen from their rightful wearers, and
> > > used in crimes...
>
> What'd I say? Which is hare-brained - burning out, shielding or theft?
>
> I fully understand tissue shielding issues, as well as EMP immunity and
> power sources. My BSEE says so! Unfortunately, the general public believes
> in lots of stuff that science has proven impossible or unworkable...
>
> Chuck Kuecker
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