From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Mon May 27 2002 - 14:42:16 MDT
Reason wrote
> Well good, now we're getting somewhere. From the principles:
>
> "These Principles are not presented as absolute truths or universal values.
> The Principles codify and express those attitudes and approaches affirmed by
> those who describe themselves as "Extropian"."
> > - Practical Optimism is a position that is statistically more likely to be
> > correct than pessimism, given perpetual progress. If things are really
> > getting better, then we really should be optimistic and understand that
> > fact.
>
> Should we?
Yes, we should.
> That's your human opinion. Note the word "seek" in the principal
> again. Forward-looking, subjective.
Yes, I agree.
> [Harvey wrote]
> > The Extropian Principles literally exist and are
> > objectively measurable. I do not see how anybody
> > can argue that they are subjective or unsupportable.
>
> I'm arguing that the Principals contain trends and the expressed desire for
> these trends. It's that desire, approval, rating of Goodness, whatever else
> you want to call it that is subjective. There is no external standard for
> valuing human opinions of a particular entity/ethical ruleset/color/set of
> trends.
>
> Can we get some arbitration here from the guy that wrote the thing? :)
As much as I treasure Max More's opinions and inputs, on the
question of the subjectivity of the Extropian Principles, he
can only have an opinion.
Lee
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