Re: group-based judgement

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Sat May 25 2002 - 00:41:43 MDT


On Friday, May 24, 2002, at 10:40 pm, Lee Corbin wrote:

> Harvey Newstrom wrote:
>
>> You may have missed Lee's assertion that men should be saved before
>> women because they are more valuable. You may have missed Gina
>> Miller's
>> suggestion that she was offended and might drop out if that is the
>> viewpoint around here.
>
> This is a complete falsehood. I NEVER even participated
> in the lifeboat thread,

Sorry, but the archives say different:
Phil Osborn introduced the lifeboat example in
<http://www.extropy.org/exi-lists/extropians/2341.html>.
Yours was the very first reply in <http://www.extropy.org/exi-
lists/extropians/2347.html>.

> and certainly NEVER expressed an
> opinion about whose life is "more valuable".

Well, you quoted Phil's assertion that men should be saved before women,
and you quoted his lifeboat example. You didn't seem to object to the
idea. All you added was that ancient Romans sometimes valued woman more
than men if they were breeders for more male soldiers. I must have
missed the part where you describe men and women being valued equally.

> The stack of apologies that you owe me keeps growing.

I don't think so. If you want to claim that I misunderstood you, then
maybe I can let that slide. But when you accuse me of falsehood when
the archives show you to be the one with the incorrect memory, I believe
the apology is owed to me.

But instead of arguing who should apologize to whom, why don't you spend
your energizing clarifying your postings on how to value men compared to
women, or how child abuse should not be outlawed, or how infanticide is
OK. You don't need me to make your ideas misunderstood. I think they
are being misunderstood on their own merit.

--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>


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