FWD [EWAR] Re: Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field

From: Terry W. Colvin (fortean1@mindspring.com)
Date: Wed May 22 2002 - 11:52:39 MDT


Note to MC, MCTECH, and EWAR list members: my comments regarding
Prof. McFadden's paper were based on a poorly written, misleading press
release. The original paper, which I learned today from McFadden is
available on the Net at
< http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/PDFs/cemi_theory_paper.pdf >, offers more
cogent support for his assertions and if very relevant to the concerns of
these lists.
 

If Adair (see below) and McFadden are right -- and we need to examine
their conclusions skeptically -- we need to rethink some basic premises,
since these scientists assert that there are much lower exogenous
(outside-the-brain) EM effects on neural processes than previously
assumed on these lists.

In a response (below) to my email, Prof. McFadden cites research (also
cited in the paper) that appears to support his (counterintuitive) assertion
that "skin, skull and cerebrospinal fluid shield us from external electric
fields (McFadden's comments are shown in red throughout my message
below):

"A 60 Hz electrical field of 1000 V/m (typical of a powerline) will
generate a tissue field of only 40 mV/m inside the head (Adair, 1991),
clearly much weaker than either the endogenous em field or the field
caused by thermal noise in cell membranes."

The key question here is the validity of Yale physics professor Robert
Adair's landmark paper ("Adair,R.K. (1991). Constraints on biological
effects of weak extremely-low-frequency electromagnetic fields.
Physical Review A 43, 1039-1048.), which dismisses health effects of
power lines and other sources of EM radiation.

Bioelectromagnetic Hygienist Marjorie Lundquist offers a rebuttal to
Adair in this paper:

< http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:eMbTwJkTXWwC:www.niehs.nih.gov/
emfrapid/html/EMF_DIR_RPT/Dir_Comments/CD_Files/VOL3/emf3_103.pdf
+adair+%22Physical+Review%22+%22Constraints+on+biological+effects%
22&hl=en&ie=UTF8 >

And Wired News cites some skeptical views by scientists regarding
McFadden's theory in Consciousness Based on Wireless?,
< http://wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,52674,00.html >

Here is Prof. McFadden's reply, unedited (his comments in red):

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Johnjoe McFadden [mailto:j.mcfadden@surrey.ac.uk]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:40 AM
  To: west; Mc@Topica. Com; mctech; Ewar@Topica. Com
  Cc: press-office; s.pockett
  Subj: Re: Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field

  original message From: Wes Thomas

  To: Mc@Topica. Com ; mctech@topica.com ; Ewar@Topica. Com

  Cc: press-office@surrey.ac.uk ; s.pockett@auckland.ac.nz ;
  j.mcfadden@surrey.ac.uk

  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:52 AM

  Subj: Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field

  This sounds like an interesting and credible hypothesis ... until you get to
  the following statement (below): "One of the objections to an
  electromagnetic field theory of consciousness is, if our minds are
  electromagnetic, then why don't we pass out when we walk under an
  electrical cable or any other source of external electromagnetic fields?
  The answer is that our skin, skull and cerebrospinal fluid shield us from
  external electric fields."

  This of course is complete nonsense. Electromagnetic radiation from 50
  or 60 Hz electrical cables is predominantly from the magnetic
  component, not the electric

  *****

  which is why the article specifies "external electric fields". if you read
  the full paper publsihed in Journal of Consciousness Studies (available on
  my website at < http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe > ) you will see I deal with this
  issue in some detail:

  "The high conductivity of the cerebral fluid and fluid within the brain
  ventricles creates an effective ‘Faraday cage’ that insulates the brain
  from most natural exogenous electric fields. A constant external
  electric field will thereby induce almost no field at all in the brain
  (Adair, 1991). Alternating currents from technological devices (power
  lines, mobile phones, etc.) will generate an alternating induced field, but
  its magnitude will be very weak. For example, a 60 Hz electrical field of
  1000 V/m (typical of a powerline) will generate a tissue field of only 40
  mV/m inside the head (Adair, 1991), clearly much weaker than either the
  endogenous em field or the field caused by thermal noise in cell
  membranes. Magnetic fields do penetrate tissue much more readily than
  electric fields but most naturally encountered magnetic fields, and also
  those experienced during nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) scanning,
  are static (changing only the direction of moving charges) and are
  thereby unlikely to have physiological effects. Changing magnetic fields
  will penetrate the skull and induce electric currents in the brain.
  However, there is abundant evidence (from e.g. TMS studies as outlined
  above,) that these do modify brain activity. Indeed, repetitive TMS is
  subject to strict safety guidelines to prevent inducing seizures in normal
  subjects (Hallett, 2000) through field effects. "

  -- magnetic fields cannot be blocked except by rare alloys, such as mu
  metal; and even at high frequencies (where the electric component
  predominates), EM radiation is only weakly attenuated by body tissues.
  You expect that kind of nonsense from the psychobabble-prone Journal
  of Consciousness Studies but not from the distinguished University of
  Surrey.

  This issue has been addressed by several researchers who have clearly
  shown that external EM fields with specific pulse, power, and frequency
  characteristics strongly affect the brain and consciousness. For
  example: Allan Frey (Human Auditory System Response
  To Modulated Electromagnetic Energy, J. Appl. Physiol. 17(4): 689-692. 1962,
  < http://www.raven1.net/frey.htm >) and Michael Persinger (Richards, P.M.,
  Persinger, M.A. and Koren, S.A. (1993). "Modification of activation and
  evaluation properties of narratives by weak complex magnetic field
  patterns that simulate limbic burst firing." International Journal of
  Neuroscience, 71: 71-85; Richards, P.M., Koren, S.A. and Persinger, M.A.
  (1992). "Experimental stimulation by burst-firing weak magnetic fields
  over the right temporal lobe may facilitate apprehension in women."
  Perceptual and Motor Skills, 75: 667-670; Gillis, C. and Persinger, M.A.
  (1993). "Shifts in the Plutchik emotion profile indices following three
  weekly treatments with pulsed vs. continuous cerebral magnetic fields."
  Perceptual and Motor Skills, 76: 168-170; Persinger, M.A. (1993).
  "Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contribution of
  geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and
  crisis; an alternative to the ESP hypothesis." Perceptual and Motor
  Skills, 76: 555-562).

  *********

  Again, I deal with this much more fully in the paper:

  "In humans, the strongest evidence for the sensitivity of the brain to
  relatively weak em fields comes from the therapeutic use of
  transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). In TMS, a current passing
  through a coil placed on the scalp of subjects is used to generate a
  time-varying magnetic field that penetrates the skull and induces an
  electrical field in neuronal tissue. The precise mechanism by which TMS
  modulates brain activity is currently unclear but is generally assumed to
  be through electrical induction of local currents in brain tissue that
  modulate nerve firing patterns. TMS has been shown to generate a
  range of cognitive disturbances in subjects including: modification of
  reaction time, induction of phosphenes, suppression of visual perception,
  speech arrest, disturbances of eye movements and mood changes
  (Hallett, 2000). Even single TMS pulses have been shown to induce
  spreading changes to the brain’s electrical activity, that can be detected
  by EEG or MEG and persists for many milliseconds after stimulation
  (Ilmoniemi et al., 1997; Ilmoniemi et al., 1999), once again indicating that
  neuronal firing patterns have been modulated. The field induced in
  cortical tissue by TMS cannot be measured directly but may be
  estimated from modelling studies. The evoked field depends critically on
  the instrumentation, particularly the coil geometry and strength and
  frequency of stimulating magnetic field. In one study where stimulation
  utilised a set of four coils, the induced electrical field was estimated to
  be in the range of 50 – 130 V/m (Epstein et al., 1990). Another modelling
  study with a figure of eight coil estimated fields of 20 - 150 V/m
  (Ruohonen et al., 2000). TMS voltages are thereby in the range of tens
  of volts per metre, values that are typical for the endogenous fields
  generated during normal and pathological brain activity (see above).
  Therefore, since TMS induced modulations of the brain’s em field
  affect brain function and behaviour, it follows that the brain’s
  endogenous field must similarly influence neuronal computation.

  The issue of the sensitivity of the human brain to weaker voltage
  fluctuations is entangled with the powerline/mobile phone controversy,
  which, despite many studies, remains contradictory and unresolved.
  However, there is very solid in vitro evidence for very weak em fields
  modulating neuronal function. Fields as weak as 10-20 V/m have been
  shown to modulate neurone-firing patterns of Purkinje and stellate cells
  in the isolated turtle cerebellum in vitro (Chan and Nicholson, 1986) or
  the guinea-pig hippocampus (Jefferys, 1981). Electric field suppression
  of epileptiform activity in rat hippocampal slices has been demonstrated
  for fields as low as 5-10 V/m (Gluckman et al., 1996) and modulation of
  hippocampal rhythmic slow activity in rats has been demonstrated in vivo
  by weak extremely-low-frequency (ELF) magnetic fields (16.0 Hz; 28.9
  mT) associated with induced electrical fields of only 100 mV/m (Jenrow
  et al., 1998). A mollusc neurone has been shown to be capable of
  responding to earth-strength (about 45 mT) magnetic fields (Lohmann et
  al., 1991), associated with induced electrical fields of just 260 mV/m.

  and later:

  "it is perhaps significant that one of the few well-controlled studies of
  the effects of microwave radiation on cognitive function in man
  concluded that there was a small but significant effect on learning
  (Preece et al., 1999) with a reduction in reaction times for repeated
  tests in subjects exposed to the radiation."

  Ironicly, this research supports Prof. McFadden's hypothesis: if there
  are extracerebral effects on neuronal processes, then intracerebral EM
  effects from signals generated by neurons themselves should also be
  expected.

  The correct answer to the objection to McFadden's hypothesis is
  suggested by this statement by Prof. Persinger: "Consciousness is not a
  continuous process but appears to be recreated transcerebrally every
  approximately 20 msec to 25 msec (the 40 Hz binding factor). We
  suspect that interfering with the end of one phase and the beginning of
  another phase once every 20 to 25 msec may allow the brain access to
  external information that typically it would never obtain." (Private
  communication, Jan 11, 1999).

  Professor McFadden
  < http://www.surrey.ac.uk/SBS/ACADEMICS_homepage/mcfadden_johnjoe/pdfs
/McFadden%20cv.pdf >

  should stick to his field, biochemistry and molecular genetics, and leave
  biophysics to the biophysicists.
  ***************

  If everyone remained in their home field, Pasteur would have continued
  to study crystals and Francis Crick would have stuck to physics. Science
  doesn't have boundaries.

  [Touche' - WT]

  johnjoe

  Johnjoe McFadden, PhD
  Professor of Molecular Genetics
  School of Biomedical and Life Sciences
  University of Surrey
  Guildford,
  Surrey, GU2 7XH, UK

   

  tel: (44) 1483 686494
  fax: (44) 1483 300374
  email: j.mcfadden@surrey.ac.uk

   

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