Re: Infanticide and Extropy

From: Amara Graps (amara@amara.com)
Date: Sun May 19 2002 - 04:02:07 MDT


Phil Osborn:
>A newborn infant costs considerable stress on the woman (with
>possible health detriment, including accelerated aging),

I think stress needs to be defined, the emotional bonding is
pretty profound.

If you mean physical stress, then maybe not if the babies are
daughters, according to the below study. Even if this study turns
out to be applicable to today's world, I expect that most mothers
would not think to trade their 34-weeks shorter life with a
lifetime of experiences with their son!

Amara

BTW, Have any of you heard Saami music? Neat stuff. I heard a Saami duo:
"Angelit" perform and sing traditional music when I was in Kiruna, Sweden,
last August. Highly recommended!
http://www.warnerclassics.com/finlandia/ln/innov/biogs/angelit.htm

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  Having sons may shorten the life span of their mothers,
  researchers say
  PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer
  Thursday, May 9, 2002
  ©2002 Associated Press

  URL:
  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2002/05/09/national1517EDT0709.DTL

  (05-09) 12:17 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

  "My son will be the death of me yet."

  The familiar lament by mothers everywhere may have a kernel of
  scientific truth, researchers say.

  A study analyzing family church records in earlier centuries found
  that having sons shortened the life span of Finnish mothers by
  about 34 weeks per son. Daughters nurtured to adulthood helped
  prolong mothers' lives.

  Baby sons, researchers suggest in the journal Science, make a much
  greater physical demand on the mother's body than do the typically
  smaller daughters and this may actually lead to a shorter life for
  the mother.

  "Boys are usually born much heavier than girls," said Samuli
  Helle, a researcher at the University of Turku in Finland and the
  study co-author. "It seems that boys are much more demanding to
  produce than girls."

  Helle said the conclusion is based on church family records kept
  in Finland for a nomadic people called the Sami during the period
  1640 to 1870. He said the toll on mothers lives of having sons may
  not apply in the era of modern medicine.

  "Nowadays we have better medical care," Helle said. "Resources are
  not as likely to limit females' life span. There might be some
  effect, but it will not be as huge as in the Sami people."

  Helle and his co-authors used the records because of their
  accuracy and because they gave a measure of the effects of natural
  mortality before advance medical care.

  The study concentrated on women who produced children and then
  went on to live past age 50. The researchers found that women who
  gave birth to sons had a shorter life span than those who had only
  daughters. Typically, a mother's life was shortened by about 34
  weeks per son.

  Having daughters who were raised to adulthood diminished the
  effect, actually helping the mothers to live longer, Helle said.

  "You can actually cancel the negative effect (on life span) of one
  boy by producing about three girls," said Helle. "The girls stayed
  in their natal group for quite a long time. All the children had a
  great influence on their parents' lives, but the girls had a more
  positive effect than the boys."

  During the study period, Sami families typically had four children
  per generation. The children tended to stay with the family,
  creating an extended family group that spanned several
  generations.

  The Sami were a nomadic people who followed the migration of
  reindeer. They led a hard life, but they were very successful,
  said Helle. Infant mortality in the group was very low, so there
  was "no need to produce compensating children to replace those who
  died at an early age," he said.

  During the preindustrial era, the life span average about 62 years
  for both men and women, said Helle. This was far longer than in
  many cultures during that era. Today, the average life span of a
  Finn is about 81 years for women and about 74 years for men.
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  Science: www.sciencemag.org

      ©2002 Associated Press

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