From: outlawpoet - (outlawpoet@stealth.hell.com)
Date: Fri May 03 2002 - 16:29:34 MDT
--- Dossy <dossy@panoptic.com> wrote:
>Imagine this:
>
>Cryo-suspension kills you. There is an afterlife, you go to it.
>You enjoy it immensely. All of a sudden, without your consent,
>you're ripped from it only to be brought back into the world
>you left when you're resuscitated and awoken from your cryo-sleep.
Hmm, I've never heard of any religion that has implied that souls are independent but linked to physical actualization. Most Christian Variants actually believe in a kind of re-actualization that doesn't actually occur until the end of the world. So even if cryo-sleep works in that case, your suspension would be disrupted by the four horsemen.
As far as reincarnation, I don't see how that would matter, as there is no concious memory preservation until you get to the really high levels.
I suppose there are simplified Christian variants who believe in an immediate heaven, but I see little biblical evidence for this belief, and even if this scenario occurs, so what? Apparently there is an afterlife, and now I have information I didn't before, and a second chance on earth with this knowledge. I think that would be priceless. Concrete evidence of a religion being true? I could save the souls of millions of people. All good things for an altruist.(not that I think it's likely.)
>
>You essentially _died_ in the afterlife to be brought back to
>this life. Ouch!
>
>And, committing suicide in your old life doesn't guarantee you
>going back to the afterlife you just left. What now?!
Well, now I know the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything. Obviously, I spread the word. Save people's souls. Network with other worthy cryonauts for a "I miss Nirvana" support group.
>Your description fits what I go on to classify as "the terminally
>curious" ...
>
>Your curiousity stems from knowing today and wondering about
>tomorrow. There's a continuity there that lets you connect
>things in a way you find interesting.
<snippy snip of expansion of that idea>
No.
My curiosity does not stem from comparison of today to posited tommorro, or comfortable now to interesting situation. And I don't see why a difference in degree of change esssentially changes my interest in the situation. I like new things, but when ratio of new things to old things approaches parity or above, suddenly I don't like new things anymore? That doesn't make any sense.
A newborn toddler may spend time in frustration, but s/he also has boundless potential, and displays a general interest and fascination that I try to emulate. I've spent some time with children(daycare ages 3-6) and I think you're being a little dark. They often get frustrated when trying to communicate, but the tenor of most seems to skew towards delight and fascination with new things.
Keep in mind this is just my opinion, but I really don't value my current life so much that change on a global scale frightens me. I'm not afraid by my knowledge not being applicable, in fact, I welcome it. I would love to live in a time where my reflexes of being defensive with people on the street are archaic and unneccesary. It would be wonderful where my sense of constant background outrage at the hand the world deals people was misplaced. I would love to have to relearn completely how to relate to people, their machines, and their world. It sounds very exciting.
Justin Corwin
outlawpoet@hell.com
"Who here is so attached to their jobs and things that you would not give up 1.8 people dying involuntarily every second?"
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