Re: POLITICS: Re: grim prospects

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri Apr 12 2002 - 13:38:32 MDT


On Friday, April 12, 2002, at 02:29 pm, CurtAdams@aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/12/02 8:23:18, mail@HarveyNewstrom.com writes:
>
>> Even in a war, there has to be a pretty clear and present danger before
>> the military is allowed to fire upon unarmed civilians. I really can't
>> believe I am the only one who believes this.
>
> Don't worry, Harvey, you're not, you're just doing a great job so
> there's
> no need for me-toos.

I wish I felt like I was doing a good job, but lately I feel like it is
a losing battle. I seriously think I see more anti-freedom,
anti-rights, anti-speech rheteric here than calls for freedom. I see
more support for initiating force at the slightest imagined wrong rather
than calls for evenhandedness. There is more classism, nationalism,
pro-government, pro-military, anti-individual support than I ever
imagined could survive here. I even see more pseudo-science and
religious faith in unverified conjecture than real technical
possibilities. People seem to be just making up ideas for propaganda
value rather than concerning themselves with real research, validation
and facts. It is getting harder and harder to justify putting any
energy into this movement when is seems to becoming more destructive and
less scientific. This discussion list seems to have little to do with
the Extropian Principles, the Scientific Method, or even logical
thought. Politics and propaganda seem to have become the primary
purpose for most participants.



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