From: dwayne (dwayne@pobox.com)
Date: Sat Apr 06 2002 - 02:05:06 MST
"Michael M. Butler" wrote:
>
> dwayne wrote:
> > spike66 wrote:
> > > The Palestinians and the Israelis are starting world war 4.
> >
> > Aha, that's right.
> > Wow, I must have been to a *really good party* the night before World War 3
> > started.
> > Who won?
>
> It only takes me a few seconds to infer that by Spike's lights, WWIII was the
> Cold War. In the popular theory, NATO / USA won because the FSU broke up, the
> Berlin Wall came down, Germany reunified, etc., etc.
Errrr, I don't know about you, but I don't consider hordes of grumpy people
outspending each other an a mad arms race until one collapses to be a "war" at
all, and it rather cheapens the whole concept of war, really.
> Given that, if you want to figure out which party you were at: Where were you
> when Russia started rolling into Poland? When Churchill delivered his "Iron
> Curtain" speech? Or when the Wall went up? It was somewhere in there. If you
> weren't born yet, I can understand why you might have missed it.
Well, no, I was born in 68.
But either way, it certainly wasn't a war, and if I was old enough to have
been involved in world war 2 I'd be slightly offended at the comparison, I'd
think.
> I'd say "It's tragic as hell...[that]...no one [in Palestine] seems to [have
> listened] to the last proposed Palestinian statehood proposal." And it's
> tragic as hell that things have come to such a pass.
Oh, yes, I agree totally.
I'd also suggest that it's *exactly* the sort of outside meddling we've seen
for years which has allowed it to go on for so long.
> There's a line from some action flick whose title escapes me: "This is a
> situation that needs to get UN-fucked RIGHT NOW!" That's the magic of
> Hollywood for you.
It's the curse, too, as people think things can be easily solved by
spectacular action.
Dwayne
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