From: dwayne (dwayne@pobox.com)
Date: Sat Mar 30 2002 - 22:09:06 MST
spike66 wrote:
>
> > spike66 wrote:
> >
> >> Is it bitterly ironic that the cross is a symbol of the most cruel form
> >> of execution ancients could devise,
> >>
> > dwayne wrote:
> > The Romans thought it hysterically funny that the christians used the
> > crucifix
> > as a symbol...
> >
> Some religious historians argue that the crucifix was not commonly
> used as a christian symbol until later. The claim, as I understand it,
> is that the fish (icthios) was used more commonly in the first and
> second centuries. This is where we get the Darwin fishes from.
Yes, the fish and the chi-rho symbol were used.
The crucifix was horribly déclassé
> The traditional story is that if one takes acronym of the
> Greek phrase "Lesous Christos Theou Uios Soter" or
> "Jesus Christ, son of god, saviour" you get ichthus, thought
> to have been first used by the Christians at Ephesus.
No, it is because the first two letters fo "fish" and the first two letter of
"christ" are the same in greek.
> Turns out, modern scholarship has shown that the
> symbol predates christianity. The Ephesians stole
> it from the pagans.
What? The cross?
It's a pretty simple symbol, it would be mind-boggling if no one had used it
previously.
> > Red smiley it is. {8-]
> >
> > yay! Dwayne
> >
> I propose Dwayne's red smiley as the extropian symbol of mercy.
> This is not to be confused with the general extropian symbol, that
> round outpoint arrowy thing. The red smiley will be for those
> extropians specifically on a universal mission of philanthropy
> analogous to the red cross.
Hey, okay, I'll vote for this, although I spammed a hell of a lot of lists
with my nifty idea at 4am last night.
> The Darwin fishes could be a great symbol for the subset of
> extropians who concern themselves with evolutionary theory.
Or pesco-vegetarian extropians.
The fish with feet would be more appropriate. That always cracks me up
whenever I see it.
> Extropians could even form a special order of highly educated
> practitioners analogous to the Jesuits. These could be called the
> Hoerkuits.
Not that you want anyone to think extropians are a cult ...
:-)-
Dwayne
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