From: Richard Steven Hack (richardhack@pcmagic.net)
Date: Sat Mar 09 2002 - 08:08:46 MST
At 03:58 AM 3/9/02 -0800, you wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Richard Steven Hack wrote:
>>
>>>I have no problem with that either. But the impression I got from some
>>>of the comments on uploading was that it was intended as a *substitute*
>>>for participating in reality or as the primary "residence" as it were
>>>for a Transhuman.
>
>
>What exactly would make reality in an uploaded state any less "real" than
>reality in a non-uploaded state?
The attitudes of those in it. That and the fact that you are inside a
created system rather than interacting directly with the universe. By
"reality" in my original post, I meant dealing with the physical universe
outside one's personal physical boundaries. One can quibble the
metaphysics, but you should be able to get my point.
>>Virtual navel-gazers will get taken by whoever who controls the hardware
>>layer. (Hey, nice piece of computronium. We'll take it!). Nobody abolished
>>the rat race, and the limits of growth are given by the
>>matterenergy/spacetime concentration being finite. Lacking advent of
>>low-threshold spacetime engineering, it pays to not lose touch with
>>reality.
>
>
>Dunno. Ask me when we get anywhere close to the supposed limits . The
>"rat race" only makes sense if there is no way to better the fundamentals
>of your condition beyond that of rats or of much more in-your-face
>scarcity. It pays not to mistake current context for laws of reality.
>
>
>- samantha
Agree with that last sentence especially.
Richard Steven Hack
richardhack@pcmagic.net
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