From: Richard Steven Hack (richardhack@pcmagic.net)
Date: Fri Mar 01 2002 - 10:11:26 MST
At 07:50 AM 3/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
> >From: "Harvey Newstrom" <mail@HarveyNewstrom.com>
>
> >There are more problems with cloning. Cloned animals have many
> >biological problems not found in the original animals. Current
> >techniques cause genetic damage to the DNA being transferred.
> >Telomeres are copied at the current adult (pre-aged) level.
> >Cloned animals have thus far aged prematurely and died younger
> >than normal. Now we have this report which reports on some
> >investigations into these problems.
>
> >I know most people on this list support reproductive cloning, as
> >do I. But we need to be realistically aware that current
> >processes are not ready for prime time. I do not believe any
> >cloned animals are normal (yet). The only ones that appear normal
> >are too young and have not been studied long enough. Many cloned
> >animals appear normal at first and develop weird problems later in
> >life. All of the evidence points to genetic damage in the process
> >itself.
>
>I completely agree with what you have written here. This was very
>eloquently put.
>
>Resolved: Human cloning not ready for prime time.
>
>I vote in favor.
>
>
>Brian
>
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>
>
At least, human cloning such as the Raelians are into at this
time. Cloning humans where the resultant fetus is allowed to be born and
grow into adulthood would be premature now, but without experiments
eventually where cloned fetuses are allow to develop at least partially to
establish that the process "took" I think the development of cloning humans
will be slowed. That said, obviously the animal experiments are the best
path until the success rate at producing healthy animals is much higher.
I'm not sure everybody supports reproductive cloning rather than
therapeutic cloning - unless you refer to reproductive as reproducing body
parts, which I think most Transhumanists would favor.
I've never seen the point of cloning a human -i.e., fully -
anyway. Probably by the time that process is fully developed, nanotech
will make it possible to totally duplicate any organism. Why clone a human
and then have to wait nine months for the birth and 18 years for
development only to get a result that is unique from the original due to
environmental and prenatal issues when you can exactly duplicate that human
using nanotech? If I want my own copy of Natasha and Amara, that's how I'd
do it :-}
Richard Steven Hack
richardhack@pcmagic.net
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