From: Curious (curious@hyperreal.pl)
Date: Mon Dec 03 2001 - 09:57:41 MST
> My problem with data as identity is that it doesn't contain any of the
we still don't know what makes us aware.
we can talk about it in natural language, emphatize while tuning to
synthesized airwaves or electromagnetic waves, but all we discuss is mere
interfacing
between reality and _this_.
still any human can make irrational (not random) decisions, can imagine, can
go astray of reality, can go backward in evolution, can act against own
specimen,
every human _is_ so called 'god'.
ofcourse it's representation in reality (percieved as 'body') can be forced
to do whatever
you like (still it is only a representation), even psychology and
werbalisation (translation
of feelings) can be influenced, even sense of music, memories, or feelings
can be modified,
but we still talk only about _representation_ of 'spiritual being'.
what it means to be 'me'?
it depends to who - some reduce their scope to own 'ego', some extrapolate
individual
representation to other representations, for example idea of being
'together', or being 'we',
cultrural identity.
you can ofcourse go into world of idiots, detached gods, where every ego
tries to isolate
from other egos, but still - language of reality is common to all idiots
(they communicate with each other
thru reality, they're still one mind, but isolated due to a 'reason' which
caused separation of ego from
other beings ego)
opposite case occurs in state of egolesness (i.e. after LSD or in case of
schizophrenia)
when ego don't exists, 'me' means surroundings, body as representation
speaks not for
'itself' but describes only surrounding information metabolism. it is better
described in cases of
LSD ingestion rather than in cases of schizophrenia (mainly because you get
your ego back @ comedown,
maybe also because some folks called it 'recreational' so others simply
wanted to know how it feels like)
generally subject is what the place where subject is placed is mixed with
memories which subject absorbed
before loss of ego. so subject's ego _is_ information. 'me' is information,
and it feels like that then.
AI simulating LSD ingestion would say :
'how it is like "being on acid"?'
'because your input is my only input available it is like question about LSD
ingestion and all of my stored responses'
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