From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Tue Oct 16 2001 - 10:47:21 MDT
Alejandro Dubrovsky wrote:
>
> * John Clark <jonkc@worldnet.att.net> [011016 14:17]:
> >
> > Ok, it's time to confess my motivation, to tell the truth I really don't give a hoot in hell why
> > these religious fanatics do what they do, all that interests me is that they want to kill me.
> > Maybe I'm crazy but I think it just might be wise if we try to do something to stop them.
> >
>
> This is the second time you have said that you don't care why these people are
> trying to kill you, but that at the end of the day they just want to kill you.
> It seems to me that knowing why they are trying to kill you could be rather
> important since removing that reason might be much easier than stopping them from
> killing you otherwise.
That is a possible strategy, but one which limits individual freedom.
Whatever happened to the non-coersion principle? The threat of death for
behaving a certain way is certainly coercive, and therefore
anti-extropian. Given this, the proper extropian way to counter a threat
of death for extropic behavior is to reciprocate in kind.
> Say, eg, they don't like you wearing shorts to dinner on
> the first saturday of each month, then wearing something else might not be too
> much trouble, or another eg, they might just want the US military out of Saudi
> Arabia, then that should be easier than killing all of them too.
Sure, and once they knew you would cave in on that, they would then say,
"You have to stop making movies and tv programs which are sinful and
blasphemous." Then when you cave in to that, they will say, "You have to
stop making televisions and computers and satellites, for they are an
affront to Allah." If you cave in on that, they will then say, "All of
your women have to leave schools and cannot work outside the home, and
they have to wear burkhas in public and must have chaperones
everywhere."
Ah, so much for extropy, lets all just get it over with and become good
little submissive medeival muslim radicals. So sayeth Alejandro...
> Also, as an aside, you say that they want every American dead, but i haven't
> heard anything like that from "them" (whoever they may be). Could you give me
> any pointers?
Osama bin Laden's fatwa declared all Americans to be justified targets
of attack by believers, on the rationale that all Americans pay taxes to
the government which continues to station troops in Saudi Arabia in
defense of the kingdom.
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