From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2001 - 11:13:18 MDT
Wei Dai wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:13:45AM -0700, J. R. Molloy wrote:
> > Correction, US courts have ruled against turning someone into a parent without
> > her consent, but in the case of his consent, US courts have not ruled against
> > it, and men have indeed been turned into parents without their consent.
>
> Are you sure about this? Wouldn't assigning different rights to men and
> women violate the Equal Protection Clause?
Yes it does, but the movement of equality between the genders is now in
a "separate but equal, and only when we woman want it to be" stage....
>
> > Not according to US law, where otherwise lawful acts, dependent upon unlawful
> > acts, thereby become unlawful.
>
> Are you saying that illegal clones would not have the right to clone
> themselves? Why not, since it wasn't their fault that they were illegally
> cloned. By applying this logic, people who are conceived as a result of
> rape would not be allowed to procreate.
Being aborted does tend to eliminate a fetus' ability to procreate.
>
> > By that time the evolutionary phase transition will have rendered organic
> > carbon units obsolete, and biology will have transcended organic chemistry. As
> > a consequence, cloning will have become a moot issue.
>
> Maybe, but you will still have similar problems with other people stealing
> your design specs and building clones of you without your consent.
>
> > > I wonder if we might see anti-cloning technology that actually would work.
> >
> > Such technology already exists. It's called abortion.
>
> How is abortion going to protect you from being cloned? Are you going to
> go around testing every fetus and abort those that are your clones?
Well, amnioscentisis (sp?) is capable of getting a DNA sample of a
fetus. It is conceivable that a mother would have to prove that a) they
are the genetic mother and have written consent of the genetic father to
allow the pregnancy to progress, or b) the mother has full writtent
consent of the DNA owner, which the medical staff is able to confirm
independently.
This protocol could be instituted into medical ethics regs by state
licensing boards.
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