From: Miriam English (miriam@werple.net.au)
Date: Fri Aug 10 2001 - 22:11:01 MDT
At 11:25 AM 10/08/2001 -0700, Robert Coyote wrote:
>IMHO This Guy is full of C*AP
>We already have "identifiers"
>its the MAC address, and IP of the packets
>how do you think they found the creator of Melissa?
The problem is that the identifiers can be forged in raw sockets.
The idiot who wrote Melissa was a clueless vandal. When WindowsXP comes on
the market even clueless vandals will be untraceable.
>Raw sockets exist in linux and bsd, why not form a global domination
>conspiracy theory about that?
Unix variants require superuser status to gain access to raw sockets (as
far as I know) and viruses would not have that access. MS operating systems
generally don't have such security in their operating systems -- certainly
WindowsXP won't. Any mad piece of code would have full access to the
complete power of raw sockets. ("Hey little kiddy, why don't you play with
this nice pretty hand grenade.")
>Robert Coyote
> Software Entomologist
> usually well informed.
But maybe not this time. :-)
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>From: "Terry W. Colvin" <fortean1@mindspring.com>
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> > There' a good opinion-piece on the future of the internet, by Bob
>Cringely.
> > He's usually well informed.
> >
> > < http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html >
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> > Chris Jeppeson
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