From: Olga Bourlin (fauxever@sprynet.com)
Date: Mon Aug 06 2001 - 23:00:19 MDT
From: "J. R. Molloy" <jr@shasta.com>
> From: "Harvey Newstrom" <mail@HarveyNewstrom.com>
> > Have you added science to your list of
> > useless hypotheses?
> Hi Harvey!
> Nice to see you still contribute your special brand of incisive analysis
to
> the list.
> No, I have definitely NOT added science to the list of useless hypotheses,
and
> do not intend ever to do so. Science (besides being my first cognitive
love)
> appears to me the only real prospect humanity has of escaping impending
> societal disintegration at the hands of those who oppose reason and resist
> empirical evidence. Signs of this impending societal disintegration are
the
> popularity of preposterous "reparations" schemes and the irrational
dismissal
> of ubiquitous misandry.
> > You seem to be finding more and more ways to come to
> > conclusions while bypassing critical thinking, scientific method, and
the
> > like. You almost seem to have the mystical expectation that "truth"
will
> > just be known to you, and that attempts to find the truth will fail.
> Operative word being "seem."
> > You sometimes seem concerned that people miss your points. I think this
is
> > because nobody can understand what you are talking about. The above
> > sentences seem to be more like a religious stream-of-consciousness
rather
> > than a discussion with someone else. You seem to be referencing implied
> > concepts with your words that only you seem to know about. They are not
> > explicitly included in your postings.
> Operative word being "seem."
> > > Perhaps the word "mind" obscures the issue, because this word can be
> > > interpreted in more than one way. So I say parts of the brain
> > > seek control, and as the brain comes to recognize and
> > > acknowledge the unity of reality, it
> > > understands that control is an illusion.
> > To be honest, I cannot fathom your reality where you experience direct
truth
> > without thought, consciousness or mind. It is always interesting to
read
> > your posts, but I have the constant feeling that I must be missing
> > something. Do you have a reference for your belief system, or a
webpage, or
> > a name for the world-view you espouse?
> No, no, no... not "direct truth" -- rather direct _experience_. It has
nothing
> whatsoever to do with belief.
> A name for it?? How 'bout existence. Yeah, that's it... The name of my
> world-view is the scientific study of existence (with no capital "e").
Hey ... has anyone really met J.R.? Maybe he's really A.I.?
Only kidding (I think),
Olga
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