From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
Date: Mon Jul 30 2001 - 08:24:48 MDT
<DFEB0AF250A20947BA48198897C425E701BEAB24@nafm.misawa.af.mil>
From: "Steele, Kirk A" <SteeleKA@nafm.misawa.af.mil>
To: "'extropians@extropy.org'" <extropians@extropy.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:10:25 +0900
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: RE: Olber again (was: Re: Big Bang is Bunk) etcetera BOLLOCKS!
Sender: owner-extropians@extropy.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: extropians@extropy.org
Is it just me or did evyone ELSE just fall asleep in their BASIC
cosmology
classes.
And worse still, there seems to be this amnesia of the Laws of
Thermodynamics.
"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed only converted in form."
1st law of Thermo.
Infinite Light! where did pop out of?
No such critter
Methinks a lot of folks got their mouths around a word that sounds
really
cool and stirs the
mind of folks that really dont have a good grasp of the concepts
involved.
Most mathematician that i know will profer that it wasn't for several
years
in college that they accpeted that fact
that they were really rather ignorant to the totality of the concept of
infintiy.
The universe is finite. The mass in the universe is finite. Therefore
the
amount of energy in the universe is finite.
The quantities involved may be so immense as to boggle the untrained
mind
into equating this to the assumption
of infinity, but alas that is the rub.
Transcendant aspirations do not equate to license to associate,
whatever,
with the presummed comprehension
of infinity.
Spend some of those hard earned processor cycles and phosphor ionizing
electrons surfin the web at some math sites and some cosmological
refences.
Folks, talk is cheap. Real discourse starts with doing your homework.
Have a nice day...........................................
Kirkasaaurus Wrecks
-----Original Message-----
From: Technotranscendence [mailto:neptune@mars.superlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 05:46 AM
To: extropians@extropy.org
Subject: Re: Olber again (was: Re: Big Bang is Bunk)
On Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:15 AM Mike Lorrey mlorrey@datamann.com wrote:
>> If light loses energy along the journey then there is no paradox
here.
>
> Yes, there is. 'Lost' energy must go someplace. Under the steady state
> theory, the entire universe should be hotter than an EZ-Bake oven.
> Thanks anyways.
What if the universe is infinite is both age and size and expanding at a
rate faster than any process that could bring it to thermal equilibrium?
Again, just speculating here.
Cheers!
Daniel Ust
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/
Find out what Post-Objectivists are up to at:
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~thomas/po/articles.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Sat Nov 02 2002 - 08:09:17 MST