From: Russell Whitaker (russ_whitaker@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 25 2001 - 16:46:59 MDT
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Russell
>
> >From: "Mark Pesce" <mark@playfulworld.com>
> >To: <whitaker@best.com>
> >Subject: RE: Re: Mark Pesce: nanotech on Art Bell -
> broadcast is encoded
> >and
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:16:52 -0700
> >
> >Russell -
> >
> > > > 1. Gray Goo gets mentioned again, flatly, as
> > > > something that could devastate the world. "In
> 72
> > > > hours."
> >
> >It can be dressed up or down (and goodness knows
> nano researchers like to)
> >but this is one dwell point of the nano attractor.
> It's interesting to
> >note
> >that Drexler recanted on this point in the 2nd
> edition of EOC, but his
> >argument ("cars that eat trees") is almost
> embarassingly facile, confusing
> >the macro and nano levels in order to make
> something seem safer than it
> >really is.
> >
> > > > No mention of Freitas' _Biovorous
> Nanoreplicators
> > > > and Global Ecophagy_ work, no mention of the
> > > > Foresight Institute's guidelines.
> >
> >*Very* incorrect on the second point; on the first
> point, if I'd used the
> >words "biovorous" or "ecophagy" i would have lost
> the audience. I
> >translated these concepts into ideas a lay public
> can understand.
> >
> > > > 2. Responding to Art Bell briefly roleplaying
> a
> > > > member of Congress, Pesce suggests that
> government
> > > > involvement and
> > > > "something like a CDC" is necessary. Again, no
> > > > mention of the Foresight guidelines, though
> > > > Foresight Institute was
> > > > mentioned briefly earlier on in the program.
> > > > Perhaps Mr. Pesce is unaware of them.
> >
> >Once again, incorrect. I repeatedly indicated that
> ethical and scientific
> >debate about how to approach nanotechnology is of
> fundamental concern to
> >that community. Thankfully. That I did not fly
> the Foresight banner on
> >the
> >air should make little or no difference on this
> point. It flies high
> >enough
> >on the Playful World website, and over the last 36
> hours about 10,000
> >people
> >have come in to take a look at that site. I would
> imagine the hits on the
> >Foresight website are up a bit as a result.
> >
> > > > Art Bell has guests from all over the map. Art
> is
> > > > very careful to give them all enough rope.
> Michio
> > > > Kaku goes on the air
> > > > with him, and he's no slouch, scientifically
> > > > speaking. From what I've heard so far, Mr.
> Pesce has
> > > > done far from a bad
> > > > thing, even if he _has_ just inoculated x
> million
> > > > minds with the "gray goo" scenario.
> >
> >Which I felt was the most *important* thing I could
> do in this situation.
> >You've been living with these ideas for many years
> (in my case, twenty).
> >You understand the dangers and the promise well
> enough. The public does
> >not. It makes sense to deliver both the upside and
> the downside messages
> >of
> >nano in a single "innoculation" because that way we
> stand the best chance
> >of
> >breeding some intelligent discussion on the
> subject.
> >
> >It should be noted that I've received many emails
> from Art's listeners. A
> >few are a bit weird, but most are *very*
> thoughtful.
> >
> >Feel free to pass these comments back on to
> whomever they came from.
> >
> >best,
> >
> >Mark
> >
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