From: Ken Clements (Ken@Innovation-On-Demand.com)
Date: Fri Mar 23 2001 - 00:12:20 MST
Lee Corbin wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 Robert J. Bradbury wrote a long
> paragraph diving into "genes vs. environment",
> "unconscious vs. conscious", the Turing test, zombies,
> Game Theory, and the course of history!
>
> I have studied it at length, and I think that there are
> some very valid points there, but I don't think that
> we mean the same thing by "consciousness", and I know
> that we don't mean the same thing by "zombie".
>
Dear Lee,
We have put plenty of bits up on this subject that you may wish to use.
You can read why I believe I am one of those Zombies at:
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3725.html
For further background, see the links below.
-Ken
Re: Chalmers and zombies
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1739.html
Re: Chalmers and zombies
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1751.html
Re: Consciousness and the Cartesian Theater
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1780.html
Re: The Cartesian Theater
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1790.html
Re: The Cartesian Theater
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1798.html
Re: The Cartesian Theater
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1800.html
Re: Consciousness
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1814.html
Re: Consciousness
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1828.html
Re: Consciousness
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1842.html
Re: Consciousness & the soul
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1859.html
Re: Consciousness & the soul
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1922.html
Re: Consciousness and the soul
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q97/1974.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4531.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4502.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4457.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4453.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4449.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4442.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4440.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4370.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4301.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4277.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/3921.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4069.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4192.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4196.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4199.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4201.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4202.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4203.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4209.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4220.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4221.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4228.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4230.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4232.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4238.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4241.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4250.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4251.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4254.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4257.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4267.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4268.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4271.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4272.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4307.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4315.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4325.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4328.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4331.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4332.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4333.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4335.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4337.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4338.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4341.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4348.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4350.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4351.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4352.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4355.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4366.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4368.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4372.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4376.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4377.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4379.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4380.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4383.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4387.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4390.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4391.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4394.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4416.html
Re: Qualia and the Galactic Loony Bin
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4451.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4452.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4468.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4470.html
Re: Conscious of the hard problem
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.2Q99/4479.html
Re: Weird mysterious ineffable stuff
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4475.html
Re: Weird mysterious ineffable stuff
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4496.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4497.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4564.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4568.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4579.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4596.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4600.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4606.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4608.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4614.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4616.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4618.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4619.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4627.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4629.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4645.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4674.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4678.html
Re: Weird mysterious ineffable stuff
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4682.html
Re: Weird mysterious ineffable stuff
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.3Q99/4704.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2743.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2753.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2764.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2772.html
Re: Qualia again
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2773.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2775.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2776.html
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Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2786.html
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Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2800.html
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Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2837.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2842.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2889.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2945.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2946.html
Re: Sentience Quotient [was Re: qualia]
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/2968.html
Re: Sentience Quotient [was Re: qualia]
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3063.html
Re: Sentience Quotient [was Re: qualia]
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3084.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3311.html
Re: Qualia again
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3594.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3599.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3618.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3631.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3643.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3652.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3653.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3655.html
Re: Qualia again
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3654.html
Re: Qualia again
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3668.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3672.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3673.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3683.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3685.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3686.html
Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3688.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3689.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3690.html
Re: q***** (and incorrigibility)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3692.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3694.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3695.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3696.html
Re: q***** (and incorrigibility)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3697.html
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http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3704.html
Re: q***** (and incorrigibility)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3710.html
Re: q***** (and incorrigibility)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3720.html
Re: Zombie Relativity
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3725.html
Re: q***** (and incorrigibility)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3726.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3760.html
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Re: qualia http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3789.html
Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3814.html
Re: q***** [that is, "qualia"]
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Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3818.html
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Re: q***** http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3825.html
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Re: q***** [that is, "qualia"]
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Re: q***** [that is, "qualia"]
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Re: Qual mit Qualia (was: question:qualia)
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Re: q***** [that is, "qualia"]
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Re: Qual mit Qualia (was: question:qualia)
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3911.html
Re: q***** [that is, you know what]
http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians.4Q99/3928.html
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