From: Russell Whitaker (russell_whitaker@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jan 25 2001 - 14:29:42 MST
I'm not familiar with the provision under which Franklin's
friend below walked the streets of England with a 7-inch
dagger.
Russell
>From: "Franklin D. Van Ardoy Jr." <fdvanardoyjr@yahoo.com>
>Hello Russell,
>
>Yes, pass it on to others. That is fine with me.
>
>Regards,
>Franklin
>
>--- Russell Whitaker <russell_whitaker@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> > Cool; may I pass this on?
> >
> > Russell
> >
> >
> > >From: "Franklin D. Van Ardoy Jr."
> > <fdvanardoyjr@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Russell Whitaker <russell_whitaker@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Practical self-defense in the
> > UK
> > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:41:43 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Hello Russell,
> > >
> > >One of my colleagues at the Department of Defense
> > and
> > >Strategic Studies had practiced law in England
> > prior
> > >to coming to the U.S. for the master's degree. He
> > >told me that he often carried a dagger with a blade
> > of
> > >at least seven inches. He was somewhat Gothlike,
> > and
> > >because the knife was a replica of a design over a
> > >century old he was permitted to carry it as part of
> > >his "costume."
> > >
> > >He said that he was never charged under the below
> > act.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Franklin
> > >
> > >--- Russell Whitaker <russell_whitaker@hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > > > Useful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "estropico >" <estropico@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: extropians@extropy.org
> > > > >To: extropians@extropy.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: Practical self-defense in the UK
> > > > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:08:48 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >As suggested, here's what I found after
> > following a
> > > > few leads. It's a
> > > > >summary of UK law on knifes (couldn't find
> > anything
> > > > on batons) and comes
> > > > >from the website of a knifes/tools company
> > called
> > > > Gerber. The interesting
> > > > >bit is this: "It is an offence for any person
> > to
> > > > have with him in a public
> > > > >place, an article which is sharply pointed or
> > with
> > > > a blade, other than a
> > > > >folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding
> > > > three inches, (7.7cm)"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.999supplies.com/it360001.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >The law with regard to knives is fairly
> > straight
> > > > forward and is encompassed
> > > > >within these two pieces of legislation:
> > > > >
> > > > >OFFENSIVE WEAPON
> > > > >Prevention Of Crime Act 1953
> > > > >
> > > > >Section 1
> > > > >Any Person who, without lawful authority or
> > > > reasonable excuse, the proof
> > > > >whereof lies with him,
> > > > >has with him in any public place, any offensive
> > > > weapon, is guilty of an
> > > > >offence.
> > > > >
> > > > >POINTS & BLADES
> > > > >Criminal Justice Act 1953
> > > > >
> > > > >Section 139
> > > > >It is an offence for any person to have with
> > him in
> > > > a public place, an
> > > > >article which is sharply
> > > > >pointed or with a blade, other than a folding
> > > > pocket knife with a blade not
> > > > >exceeding three inches, (7.7cm) without lawful
> > > > authority or reasonable
> > > > >excuse, the proof whereof lies with him, is
> > guilty
> > > > of an offence.
> > > > >
> > > > >Reasonable excuse would be if the knife is used
> > as
> > > > a part of your equipment
> > > > >or in connection
> > > > >with your profession. This would not include
> > > > carrying it outside your
> > > > >employment. You can ask
> > > > >yourself a simple question regarding knives.
> > Would
> > > > the average person feel
> > > > >that the excuse given
> > > > >is a reasonable one and can you prove your
> > > > reasonable excuse.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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