From: Steve Nichols (steve@multisell.com)
Date: Sat Dec 09 2000 - 14:46:52 MST
>Trying to develop a theory of consciousness based on position is a bad
idea.
>Where does consciousness exist? If it's inside my head why don't I
understand
>what it's like to float in a liquid encased in a dome made of bone? I
assure you
>I don't know what that's like, and I sure don't feel that's where "I" am.
Feeling and
>thinking is what consciousness is all about so that pretty much ends the
matter
>as far as I'm concerned. Where does "old" exist? Where does "fast" exist?
>Where does the number "11" exist? Where does consciousness exist?
>These questions have no answer because they make no sense
Everyone involved in this discussion is flailing about hopelessly
because M.V.T. is the correct (thus only) solution to the mind-body
problem.
The brain manifests a phantom pineal eye. Phantoms (limbs &c)
do not "exist" in space separate from the brain, but the feelings (of "I")
are where they are felt. The phantom toe is felt as if it is from a foot
that
is no longer present. Undetectable by science, but subjectively very real.
It is very obviously and indisputably true that any circuit (brains
included)
*must* include at least some infinite-state capacity in order to
self-organise.
Circuits governed by external clock/ lock-step mechanisms are finite-state.
The pineal eye functioned as an external clock (proven by experiments) and
"consciousness" or self-control of behaviour (independent from solar
command)
happened in evolution only since the pineal eye disappeared.
End of discussion (unless someone can refute MVT or has a more complete
account of consciousness ...... and don't come back with supervenience or
any
purely verbal theories ... an evolutionary account is needed, consciousness
wasn't
magically created by God).
www.steve-nichols.com
Posthuman Organisation
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