From: Emlyn (emlyn@one.net.au)
Date: Sat Sep 16 2000 - 12:49:42 MDT
Gods (or Godesses) aren't going to help us where we are going. Get over it.
Emlyn
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From: <Spudboy100@aol.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: just me
> Not to get holy-roller on anyone here, but I agree with Samatha's
conjecture
> that if there is no God, then there is certainly room for one in a
Universe
> that includes suffering. What Samantha gets when she "recieves a lift"
from
> reading certain religious tracts is one of the religious experiences
> described by 19th century psychologist Willam James. Having a God module
is
> good if it connects one up with a sense of a better ethical system. If it
> leads only to the Inquisition torture chamber, then it's a bad bet. So I
am
> talking 'outcomes' here.
>
> Ultimately, it may turn out that some advanced primate species (humans)
once
> had a God module as part of their brain, and it helped them develop
computers
> that colonized the cosmos, which in the end leads to an ultimate Mind
(God)
> which fixed things that needed fixing (since it has ultimate computing
power)
> and help resurrect people such as Samantha! This is more inspired from a
> reading of Julian Barbour (The End of Time) as well as Tipler and
Barrow's
> Final Anthropic Principle. Talk amongst yourselves, i'm getting
ver-klempt!
> (sob!)
> -Mitch
>
>
> In a message dated 9/16/00 2:15:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> samantha@objectent.com writes:
>
> << But when the God module kicks in things happen similar to stuff in the
> mystical literature. I don't levitate or anything really wild like that
> but it feels as if my being is lifted up and sometimes turned inside out
> and that I am within or in communion with or at least sense deeply this
> much larger Presence, Power, whatever you want to call it. The "me"
> disappears mostly or melts into whatever this is or gets recast
> somehow. The emotions soar into the heavens. It goes beyond anything
> I can put into words pretty rapidly. Often it will include what seems
> like a tremendous amount of information and intensionality and directed
> energy sweeping through me. I have guesses (ranging from faulty mental
> wiring to too much religous upbringing to substances sampled in my
> youth to Vingean powers looking for agents to ???) but no real
> explanation for it. It just is - now and then. Thankfully rare enough
> it doesn't totally sweep me away. It came close when I used to meditate
> more. Whatever it is meditation intensified it quite a bit. So I
> stopped doing that because shadows of whatever this is became too strong
> to allow me to concentrate on my work easily.
>
>
> - samantha >>
>
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