From: Natasha Vita-More (natasha@natasha.cc)
Date: Wed Aug 30 2000 - 16:58:15 MDT
At 02:49 PM 8/30/00 -0700, Al wrote:
> There is no point in talking about my work towards my dreams. It would be
>dismissed as mystical rubbish by the masses here.
If your dreams are comprised of creative ideas or circumstances I don't
know why they would be dismissed. If your dreams are religious and
desirous of some of the teachings of religious beliefs, there are probably
better formats to discuss them. However, dreams are the fruits of thought
and it's probably not a good idea to give our minds hard and fast rules on
what to dream about -:) I enjoy draming about the Creativity Augmentum
when anything considered "state-of-the-art" will be in demand and aesthetic
contributions to the future considered to be the alpha-of-thinking.
>The reason that I never
>joined ExI years ago still stands and that is the dogmatic embrace of atheism
>and the ridicule of any sense of spirituality in others by its members.
I think your statement is broad and sweeping. Approximately one year ago
that I started a thread on this list titled something to the effect of "Is
There A Need for Transhuman Spirituality." In this post I discussed at
length why I considered to be a need for refined emotions and how we can
develop and apply our current consciousness to the logical outgrowths of
the current and future trends of superintelligence.
Spirituality does not pertain exclusively to the concept of a human soul or
supernatural. It can and does pertain to a sense of life. One's spirit is
the vital animating force of one's being and associated with one's mind.
Kindness is often associated with being spiritual, while not necessarily
mystical or religious.
I do not have an affinity for a human soul. I do not have a mystical
sensibility. I do have a sense of my own being and consciousness and a
desire to find peace of mind within my own mind and in all aspects of my
life around me. Thus, I think you are inaccurate in claiming that a
member, such as myself, as adverse to spirituality, unless you are
exclusively referring to narrow, dogmatic concepts.
Further, I do not deny the existence of any of the many Gods that are
purported to exist simultaneously. I do not believe in any one God nor do
I have an affinity to the sanctimonious followings of many religious
ceremonies, but certainly respect diversity.
>Dogma, in anyone, is silly.
Okay,
Natasha
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