From: Michael S. Lorrey (retroman@turbont.net)
Date: Thu Feb 17 2000 - 12:05:13 MST
Darin Sunley wrote:
> Does posting a vote on a thread about noise count as signal, or noise? :)
I guess it depends on how noisily you vote. ;)
> I'd have to add a hearty me too to the call for, if not censorship, at least
> diplomacy.
I agree heartily. However it must be recognized that there are some people who only
understand Clauswitz's Maxim.
> It seemed during the last big g*n flare-up that after the first couple posts neither
> side was even interested in the result of the argument. Studies and philosophies are
> well and good, but have any models or simulations ever been generated on the subject in
> question?
Yes there have, as well as a study done of all FBI crime data from 1979 to 1995, analysed
county by county. Such facts do not dissuade the true beleivers.
> I strongly suspect that certain policies regarding the subject in question create, not
> utopias or hellholes, but chaotic legal attractors and various other neato phenomena.
Yes they do. Examination of such phenomena has resulted in evidence fairly damning to the
other side's arguments, but that does not dissuade them. "Don't confuse me with the facts"
seems to be the SOP.
> P.S. I would like to add, in closing, that the loss of Eliezer from this list, as well
> as any of you others, would be a deep misfortune. It was through a link on Ander's
> Transhumanism page to Eliezer's "Staring into the Singularity" that I even found this
> movement in the first place.
Yes, Eliezer has made some great contributions to transhuman thought.
Mike Lorrey
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