From lf-lists at mattcorallo.com Mon Dec 4 20:35:32 2023 From: lf-lists at mattcorallo.com (Matt Corallo) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 12:35:32 -0800 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Mailing List Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5458e0a9-ddd5-4ea1-8ebb-6151a3b20022@mattcorallo.com> Ah, there was also some concern over archiving of a discourse, which we'd hoped was trivial through "mailing list mode", but apparently that may not be the case. Further thoughts on that are welcome. Matt On 12/4/23 12:32 PM, Matt Corallo wrote: > On the call the vote was split between "host our own ML, or maybe use groups.io" and "some discourse > instance, probably delvingbitcoin.org", with a weak majority for the second. > > With that in mind, we're gonna give delvingbitcoin.org a try, at least for two weeks, and then we > can come back to this and discuss! > > Some folks indicated they'd like to interact with it via the supposed "mailing list mode", but sadly > AJ indicated it may not be super reliable (and seems to be disabled on delvingbitcoin.org). I've > asked AJ to enable it so people can maybe try it out but we'll see if it works. Sadly if you don't > enable this mode it appears you cannot post via email. > > See-also discussion of using a category vs tags at > https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/can-we-get-a-lightning-protocol-design-category-wg/242/3 > > Because this is new, we'll have another discussion in two weeks about if people are happy with this > as a solution/if we should host our own discourse (not sure why)/if we should go back to the mailing > list plan. Those who have a view can also respond to this email and I'll raise it in the meeting. > > Matt > > On 11/26/23 8:51 AM, Matt Corallo wrote: >> During the last meeting it came up that the mailing list here will likely shut down somewhere >> around the end of the year. We listed basically the following options for future discussion forums: >> >> * google groups as a mailing list hoster. One question was whether its friendly to subscribing >> without a gmail account, which may be limiting to some. >> * github discussions on the lightning org. One question is whether the moderation tools here are >> sufficient. >> * Someone (probably me) host a mailman instance and we use another mailing list. I dug into this a >> bit and am happy to do this, on the one condition that the ML remains fully moderated, though this >> doens't seem like a substantial burden today. One question is if spam-foldering will be an issue, >> but with full moderation I'm pretty confident this will be tolerable, at least for those with >> email hosted anywhere but Microsoft lol. >> * A discourse instance (either we host one or we use delvingbitcoin, which AJ hosts and has >> previously offered to set up a lightning section on). >> >> There was some loose discussion, but I'm not sure there's going to be a clear conclusion. Thus, I >> think we should simply vote at the next meeting after a time-boxed minute or two discussion. If >> anyone has any thoughts or would like to have their voice heard, they can join the meeting in a >> week and a day or can respond here and I'll do my best to repeat the views expressed on the call. >> >> Matt >> _______________________________________________ >> Lightning-dev mailing list >> Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev > _______________________________________________ > Lightning-dev mailing list > Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev