From laolu32 at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 01:09:05 2022 From: laolu32 at gmail.com (Olaoluwa Osuntokun) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 18:09:05 -0700 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Onion messages rate-limiting In-Reply-To: <990de4a2-39f6-5b38-5fd1-05619b8a7330@mattcorallo.com> References: <990de4a2-39f6-5b38-5fd1-05619b8a7330@mattcorallo.com> Message-ID: Hi Matt, > Ultimately, paying suffers from the standard PoW-for-spam issue - you > cannot assign a reasonable cost that an attacker cares about without > impacting the system's usability due to said cost. Applying this statement to related a area, would you also agree that proposals to introduce pre-payments for HTLCs to mitigate jamming attacks is similarly a dead end? Personally, this has been my opinion for some time now. Which is why I advocate for the forwarding pass approach (gracefully degrade to stratified topology), which in theory would allow the major flows of the network to continue in the face of disruption. -- Laolu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: