From chrismoss411 at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 16:35:19 2021 From: chrismoss411 at gmail.com (Christian Moss) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 16:35:19 +0000 Subject: [Lightning-dev] [bitcoin-dev] Sending OP_RETURN via Bitcoin Lightning In-Reply-To: <CALkkCJas_pf7Un45CJyFg8j9cBk8PtKN4iYAL81TtLSRNnKqeg@mail.gmail.com> References: <DD7D5A8B-F61F-4302-ACF4-CE731843D97D@gmail.com> <CALL-=e5mF9TqbbD=Cf-bawbw4dq2PGjC9W_nqAQeHsB829ZpNg@mail.gmail.com> <CALkkCJas_pf7Un45CJyFg8j9cBk8PtKN4iYAL81TtLSRNnKqeg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CANQKmgLyaYAjL_=LziTCFT=Ahc2SXjJrWc+RO59pxd3mnJApfQ@mail.gmail.com> As far as I understand it, RGB doesn't scale NFTs as each transaction to transfer ownership of an NFT would require an onchain transaction On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 3:44 PM Martin Habov?tiak via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I recommend you researching RGB: https://rgb-org.github.io/ > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, 11:21 Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm not a bitcoin developer. >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, 5:05 AM H?ctor Jos? C?rdenas Pacheco via bitcoin-dev >> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I?ve been thinking about how OP_RETURN is being used to create and trade >>> NFTs on Bitcoin (think RarePepes, SoG and other new ones) and was wondering >>> if it?s possible to >>> >> >> Do you have a link to any of these protocols? >> >> make transactions with this opcode via Lightning. >>> >>> More specific questions could be: >>> >>> 1. Can opcodes like OP_RETURN be inside a channel?s opening or >>> closing transaction? >>> 2. If so, could that OP_RETURN change hands within that channel or >>> network of channels? >>> >>> OP_RETURNs do not have ownership according to the bitcoin network. It >> is not hard to define a protocol that associates an OP_RETURN with >> ownership, and ownership could then be transferred via lightning by sending >> associated currency via lightning. Robustness improvements seem possible. >> >> >>> 1. If possible, could the OP_RETURN be divisible? Could one person >>> send a piece of a OP_RETURN just like one can do right now on the primary >>> ledger or would it need to maintain the OP_RETURN code intact? >>> >>> OP_RETURNs themselves do not have ownership, but you can define a >> protocol that gives them divisible ownership, including via lightning. >> >> I?m assuming that, if possible, this would need a protocol layer parallel >>> to Bitcoin/Lightning that stores and reads all Bitcoin transactions and the >>> ones which involve the node's channels as well as the ones with the >>> OP_RETURN, just like CounterParty does right now with the primary ledger. >>> >>> Thank in advance. >>> ?? >>> >>> *H?ctor C?rdenas*@hcarpach >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bitcoin-dev mailing list >>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lightning-dev mailing list >> Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20211206/c62a093a/attachment-0001.html>