From lee.chiffre at secmail.pro  Fri Apr 16 02:06:01 2021
From: lee.chiffre at secmail.pro (Mr. Lee Chiffre)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:06:01 -0700
Subject: [Lightning-dev] Questions on lightning chan closure privacy
Message-ID: <8cec9ededc75ea9bc8cf8b9be9cee36a.squirrel@giyzk7o6dcunb2ry.onion>

When opening and closing channels on lightning it involves 2 of 2 multisig
bitcoin addresses. I have two questions. One, if it is a private lightning
channel can someone who is analyzing the transaction details of the 2 of 2
multisig address when the chan is being opened or closed, determine what
lightning node it belongs to? Two, if the balances of each side of a
channel are different when closing vs. opening, can someone determine
which output from the 2 of 2 multisig belongs to who?

Random people connect to my lightning node with private channels
frequently including myself. Does a few transactions then closes the
channel. Somestimes I even open a chan to the lightning network and make
payments to myself to one of my my other chans (sometimes private,
sometimes not) before closing.

Depending on the answer to my questions, lightning be used sort of like a
fancy payjoin network by mixing the cluster of my coin history with users
of my nodes along with that of the nodes I open and close chans to?

Could someone mix their bitcoin by such activity of opening and closing
private chans to random nodes after sending some amount to their other
chans (or maybe reverse submarine swap) before closing?

Please CC me when replying so I get a copy.

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