From bastien at acinq.fr Mon Oct 5 13:30:47 2020 From: bastien at acinq.fr (Bastien TEINTURIER) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 15:30:47 +0200 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Why should funders always pay on-chain fees? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi darosior, This is true, but we haven't solved yet how to estimate a good enough `min_relay_fee` that works for end-to-end tx propagation over the network. We've discussed this during the last two spec meetings, but it's still unclear whether we'll be able to solve this before package-relay lands in bitcoin, so I wanted to explore this as a potential more short-term solution. But maybe it's not worth the effort and we should focus more on anchors and `min_relay_fee`, we'll see ;) Bastien Le lun. 5 oct. 2020 ? 15:25, darosior a ?crit : > Hi Bastien, > > > I think that *in some cases*, fundees should be paying a portion of the > commit-tx on-chain fees, > otherwise we may end up with a web-of-trust network where channels would > only exist between peers > that trust each other, which is quite limiting (I'm hoping we can do > better). > > > Agreed. > However in an anchor outputs future the funder only pays for the > "backbone" fees of the channel and the fees necessary to secure the > confirmation of transactions is paid in second stage by each interested > party (*). It seems to me to be a reasonable middle-ground. > > (*) Credits to ZmnSCPxj for pointing this out to me on IRC. > > Darosior > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: