From ya at slamail.org Thu Nov 7 14:58:29 2019 From: ya at slamail.org (Yaacov Akiba Slama) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:58:29 +0200 Subject: [Lightning-dev] A proposal for up-front payments. In-Reply-To: References: <87ftj33w2z.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <87ftj0ux3j.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Message-ID: On 07/11/2019 16:43, Joost Jager wrote: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 3:36 PM lisa neigut > wrote: > > > Imagine the following setup: a network of nodes that trust each > other > > The goal of this pre-payment proposal is to remove the need for > trusted parties > > > Trust isn't the right word. It is a level of service that you provide > to your peers. If nodes are cognizant of the fact that the level of > service they receive goes down if they forward spam, they will be > careful on the incoming side. Require peers to build up a reputation > before increasing the inbound limits that apply to the channels with them. We can learn from the current situation in emails, that a system based on reputation tends to concentrate the power in the hands of few big and strong actors (gmail and co). If we have from the beginning a mechanism to fight against spam by paying to send message, we can perhaps have a really distributed system which cannot be censured.