From rusty at rustcorp.com.au Mon Nov 4 04:38:39 2019 From: rusty at rustcorp.com.au (Rusty Russell) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:08:39 +1030 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Increasing fee defaults to 5000+500 for a healthier network? In-Reply-To: <87r23ggli0.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> References: <87wodcj9iy.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <87r23ggli0.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Message-ID: <874kzk6ysw.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Rusty Russell writes: > Olaoluwa Osuntokun writes: >> Defaults don't necessarily indicate higher/lower reliability. Issuing a >> single CLI command to raise/lower the fees on one's node doesn't magically >> make the owner of said node a _better_ routing node operator. > > No, but those who put effort into their node presumably have more > reliable nodes, and this is a signal of that. > > Anyone have data on channel reliability that they can correlate with > channel fees? Actually, since lnd sends out a disable update for nodes which are offline for > 20 minutes, we can simply look at the current gossip: half-channels online: 45157 percentage using 1000/1 fees: 56% half-channels offline: 10225 percentage using 1000/1 fees: 51% So my assumption seems completely wrong here; if there's any correlation, it's negative. Cheers, Rusty.