From ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com  Thu Nov 15 04:42:28 2018
From: ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com (ZmnSCPxj)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:42:28 +0000
Subject: [Lightning-dev] Strawman BOLT11 static "offer" format using
	probes.
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Good morning Rusty,

No particular comment on static offer invoices, but instead various bikeshedding.

>
> The format of the final-hop lightning onion would contain:
>
> [whatever-marker-we-need?][128-bit-`p`-field][[type,len,data]+]

I think a separate BOLT for the type,len,data would be useful, and might also document various consistent designs of messages (such as var-length fields using a prefixed 16-bit length measuring number of items in the field).

BOLT #13: type,len,data standard

(I should probably move this to a new thread).

> I apologize that this wasn't fleshed out before the summit, but I
> overestimated the power of Scriptless Scripts so had mentally deferred
> this.

My understanding is that SS *is* as powerful as we thought, at least for some of the applications we were hoping to use it for.
However, implementing SS is hard without Schnorr, because script magic with `OP_CODESEPARATOR` is magic, and we essentially stalled out and said "maybe wait for Schnorr instead".


Regards,
ZmnSCPxj