From decker.christian at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 14:06:27 2018 From: decker.christian at gmail.com (Christian Decker) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:06:27 +0200 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Can I try Lightning without running a fully-fledged bitcoin block chain? In-Reply-To: References: <7eaf1653-dc82-693b-b41d-1b2ef53cc995@frankentrikes.com> <7syNdTVtsBVRm29yVjQzY1P6Ytm-u8c3RjWxJGk2Zk8gR1L7wQRAQfJDSKe2klmk3PDHY9VjnP_v6hOIsgLeAAMIvjmt4hAE8ch_VSkctEY=@protonmail.com> Message-ID: <87sh8hd5ek.fsf@gmail.com> Dear Mahesh, as interesting as the discussion of alternative blockchain storage it, it is probably off-topic for the Lightning mailing list. So I'd suggest taking this discussion to either the bitcoin-dev or bitcoin-core-dev mailing lists. Cheers, Christian Mahesh Govind writes: > Could we use similar technique used in hyperledger to prune the chain . > Pruning based on consensus ? > -mahesh > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM, ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev < > lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Good morning Segue, >> >> Please consider creating an implementation of this idea for bitcoind and >> share it on bitcoin-dev. Then please make a pull request on >> github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin for this. >> >> Regards, >> ZmnSCPxj >> >> >> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. >> >> ??????? Original Message ??????? >> On March 27, 2018 11:26 AM, Segue <012mistery at frankentrikes.com> wrote: >> >> Developers, >> >> >> On THIS note and slightly off-topic but relevant, why can't chunks of >> blockchain peel off the backend periodically and be archived, say on >> minimum of 150 computers across 7 continents? >> >> It seems crazy to continue adding on to an increasingly long chain to >> infinity if the old chapters (i.e. more than, say, 2 years old) could be >> stored in an evenly distributed manner across the planet. The same 150 >> computers would not need to store every chapter either, just the index >> would need to be widely distributed in order to reconnect with a chapter if >> needed. >> >> Then maybe it is no longer a limitation in the future for people like >> Yubin. >> >> Segue >> >> >> >> On 3/26/18 6:12 PM, lightning-dev-request at lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:56:05 +0100 >> From: Federico Tenga >> To: Yubin Ruan >> Cc: lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> Subject: Re: [Lightning-dev] Can I try Lightning without running a >> fully-fledged bitcoin block chain? >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> You can try pruning, you will still have to validate the whole chain so it >> takes time, but you won't need to store all the blockchain on your disk. >> >> On 17 March 2018 at 10:02, Yubin Ruan wrote: >> >> >> I just don't have so much space for a storing the whole blockchain on my >> laptop. >> >> Yubin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lightning-dev mailing listLightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.orghttps://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lightning-dev mailing list >> Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Lightning-dev mailing list > Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev